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I had the opposite experience. Have had nearly every device. Rift, Rift S, Quest 2, Quest 3, PSVR, PSVR2, Index. Was not impressed at all the the AVP when I tried it. Worse experience almost entirely. Hand gestures suck. Stare to select sucks. Experiences weren't as good as even Rift for me.

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You can use a mouse keyboard and game controller for a cursor if you want. You can also turn on a mode to do normal neck controlled cursor (I mapped it to triple click of the button)

Seriously? Come on. I was one of the first hundred people to kickstart the Rift and have owned every major consumer headset (except the Index) since. The AVP absolutely destroys the Rift in every way.

The only strong argument for Rift/etc. would be for gaming, but the AVP isn’t being sold as a gaming device. The new beta Vision OS2 also signicantly improves hand gestures.

I too was unimpressed with the Apple Store AVP demo, but after owning it for a while I absolutely see where it fits in (especially once a non-Pro version comes along).

Right, because the AVP is ignoring the only useful application for VR today by eschewing precision controllers to try to get OFFICE WORKERS to strap on this monstrosity of a strap-on facial PC to do PRODUCTIVITY tasks. What a joke.

I mean I’d be all for that if there was value to the 3D user interface. A CAD program where you actually interact with the part, or a biomolecular research tool where you can actually handle scales-up proteins in your hand.

But strapping a heavy display to your head so that you can interact with the same flat 2d windows? I don’t get it.

I'm sure not going to drop $3k on one, but I've had bosses that would want to drop $300k to outfit the whole department with tech that we don't have a use for.

Yeah, it was quite telling that most of the new features and demos, were for the most part already available on Holo Lens.

Seeing Vision Pro at WWDC was like a deja-vu from BUILD a couple of years earlier.

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