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Comment by w-ll | Hacker News Reader

imma be honest, if i get a email that comes from a buttondown.com server, for something i have never signed up for, im gonna mark as spam... email is hard, and it seams every time a new sender service pops up, It seems to get a lot of bad actors.

Your homepage says "and our spam protection is best-in-class." is that for your client inbox, or mine?

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Almost all the spam I'm getting is coming from some weird re-purposed domain of an old business or unsecured mail server.

I can't recall receiving "spam" from Mailchimp, Buttondown or other newsletter companies. Especially because before you can send a significant amount of emails on these providers you have to pay a lot, or get your account verified through different means.

Seems like a bit of an overreaction on your part.

The nice thing about mailchimp et al is you can just forward the unsolicited mail to abuse@ and they’ll generally deal with the bad sender.

That's pretty much table stakes for every ISP to have a way to quickly report abuse on their network or service.

Yep, but for most b2b spam that is being sent through google suite it’s not an option.

If mailchimp et al blocked their bad senders then they wouldn't have any senders left.

Mailchimp in particular kicked out all their good senders years ago, when they made Mandrill require a Mailchimp subscription.

Do you really believe that?

Their main product is spam as a service. There's nothing to believe, you just have to look at their website for two seconds.

Ah, you’re one of those people who don’t understand that people actually do want to receive marketing emails.

Let me guess, you're a spamware developer?

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