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In North America the growth of Square has pushed things the other way; tips are front and center for the most limited of "tippable service" - starting at 18% and up from there. Tipping on fast food or something like a latte were the extra labour is already priced in is ridiculous.

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I went to pick up my dog from the groomer and they asked me for a tip as soon as I said I was there to pick him up.

I replied "Can I see my dog first?"

It just shows that there's an expectation, and at that point it should simply be built into the advertised price.

The drive through coffee shack that I get coffee from asks for a tip on its payment terminals.

I typically do tip because I'm never buying just drip coffee and I'd like to reward the person who took the time to make my drink.

In exchange there's typically some latte art which takes some skill to build up.

I'm glad you feel supported in your payment of the extra socially expected tax that should be included in item prices.

At a coffee shop I'm sort of a regular at, I hate how they spin around the Square tablet whatever thing and it starts at $1, $2, or $3 for a 2.50 Americano. I usually tip a dollar but honestly, an americano is just two shots and hot water. Basically drip coffee. Sometimes I wonder why I go there at all when I could just make crappy instant coffee at work that more or less tastes same.

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