Wells Fargo employee found dead at desk after 4 days
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I'd like to know more about what her desk was like? Was she situated with her back to other people, so it wasn't obvious that she was unresponsive? Did people leave her undisturbed, out of politeness? Did she pass late Friday afternoon, and no one noticed?
Two things of note: her last badge-in was on a Friday, and her body was noticed on a Tuesday, so two of those days were when the office was closed. The other is that almost everybody in the office, according to the article, works remotely. So, it's possible not many people even had a chance to notice her between when she died on Friday (presumably) and when she was finally found on Tuesday.
However, that office supposedly has round the clock security, and the security on duty didn't pick up on anything unusual. Unless there's some rule against security monitoring the area where she worked, it's possible BOA corporate needs to review its physical security procedures, and possibly its security staff. In any case, something is broken there.
> However, that office supposedly has round the clock security, and the security on duty didn't pick up on anything unusual.
I can imagine that if I had the security officer's job, and I walked around same office every single day, I'd really stop caring at some point and could potentially miss a dead body. It's an office, not airplane landing checklist after all. Probably the guy was looking for things like open doors or damaged equipment.
I had three big monitors and ANC headphones. I didn't hear a thing. I was sitting relaxed alone in my room, other co-workers from the same room were on vacations.
I didn't hear the alarm. The guy who had to check if everyone evacuated just glanced over my room and didn't see me, as I was behind the monitors. When I was about to to get some water, I've discovered that the fire doors were all activated.
I remember the feeling when I was going outside the office by using the fire staircase (elevators were off), and seeing firemen passing by, all looking at me as if I was some kind of an alien visiting earth. That feeling now tells me that it's completely believable to miss a dead person for a few days, especially if two days are the weekend. Someone didn't do their job, but this happens, sometimes in the worst time possible. In such cases, we get the news like in this situation.
> They said while most employees at the Wells Fargo office work remote, the building has 24/7 security and someone should have found Prudhomme sooner.
Very sad, although admittedly I thought the title meant she worked for four days before dying of exhaustion. She actually just had a secluded office in an empty building
Which makes me remember about the stories of people forced to return to office after the lockdowns, just to find themselves in empty buildings because everyone else gets to work from home
You know how many office buildings have some kind of foul odor? Lots.
how liberally you used your vacation policy doesn’t matter
how long your breaks were doesn’t matter
I’ve travelled and tried to make meetings while my friends or lovers were around, and in hindsight it was not worth leveraging that discipline
Helping other coworkers is more useful for perception than performing in your own duties
Should they monitor people's pulse or heat signature? Should they have someone do rounds and monitor people, maybe poke those seemingly still?
This happened over a weekend. Discovered on a Tues.
What exactly are you asking for? Are families and friends soulless because sometimes people die alone at home without anyone noticing?
How is the company and how are coworkers supposed to care more? Are they supposed to act like gulags with daily roll-calls before and after work where you seek to find out if anyone escaped?
This was a lightly used floor of an office that had hybrid workers and it happened over a weekend. I really don't know what more you're asking for? Maybe you want cadaver dogs roaming the floors on a daily basis just in case?
Hmmm....trying to figure out why you think I'm blaming the company. I'm not really--the company is not your friend, and it's not your family, nor should it be.
// I really don't know what more you're asking for? //
I'm asking you and everybody who is reading this not to confuse the company with your family and friends. No matter how much time you take away from your friends and family and give to the company, the company will--and should!--fire you as soon as they can find a cheaper way to do your job. It absolutely does not care if you die at your desk and alone. Nor should it.
Yes, this happens to all people but I believe it happens more often because complicate our lives.
I can think of two separate friends of my family who lost adult children in this way. They died in their apartments and weren't found for close to a week. One of them was actually a childhood friend of mine.
And working for money to participate in organized society is objectively easier than going off grid.
I'm not saying working in early mills or factories was fun, but it beat the hell out of subsistence living so much that people opted for that to remaining in the hinterlands --this still is the case in modern China --that's why there are so many illegal internal migrants moving to city manufacturing sectors.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30500591
Modern people tend to never be aware of how many hunter gathers live long fit healthy lifestyles.
I know there are some !Kung who live alright as bushmen, in a mild climate, but it's not an easy life. Anyhow, more power to them if they remove all traces of modernity from their lives.
Logistic map (aka uncontrolled growth of population or overpopulation) is basically the fundamental source of suffering for all living things. Instead of planning for food, nature just overproduces demand and lets the weak starve to death and the average to just starve.
Rather than asking how it would support billions, we should ask how we are planning to not suffer in these numbers. Haven’t heard it regarding our current life style. Everyone tells us to reproduce more and pay more and more astronomic bills and loans, that’s it.
Personally, I would say a lifestyle that isn't just a thought experiment should answer one of
A) How do you support the current population of the planet like this?
B) How do you humanely reduce the population over time if you can't?
Obviously still value in thought experiments, but if you're talking about real life, ignoring those two questions gets a bit euthanasia/genocide-y pretty easily. "Every human being alive today not existing" should probably not pass the lifestyle test suite, right?The world’s a very big place with a hugely diverse set of possible “valid” lifestyles (and limited ability to influence their reality). So what’s the big deal with proposing that maybe for some people a return to the land or to subsistence is a legitimate option?
A system with free agents is very prone to painting itself into a corner, it’s unstable by design. One of the issues that we have is that on the brink of catastrophe we are still asking ourselves whether the less carastrophic measures are ethical. But times of “we do what we want” end with the last decent square mile allocated for crops and housing.
We’re at such hard physical limits for the first time, so it will take a couple of world wars to figure out new rules, I guess.
often ?
Is that a first person observation, guesswork, or dubious inference on the basis of sparse evidence of occasional battles in some parts of the world?
The certitiude of comments such as yours is always intriguing.
For reference, in the region in question there's no archealogical evidence of any pitched battles in the Tanimi and genetic evidence supports people arriving in various parts of Australia and pretty much staying where they got to tens of thousands of years back until the 1800's at least.
Aboriginal mitogenomes reveal 50,000 years of regionalism in Australia https://www.nature.com/articles/nature21416
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2016-09-22/world-first-s...
There is ample evidence for homicide among hunters and gatherers, though. We don't like to hear it, because the Noble Savage myth is still going strong.
https://evolutionistx.wordpress.com/2015/06/08/no-hunter-gat...
Yeah, we don't have a comprehensive record of every tribe ever. But violence is attested pretty well among those that we have.