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> As you said, democracies do vote in socialists, or communists, which are far worse.

Hell, they elect them. An actual socialist president was elected in 2022 and is in power right now. And he appointed another communist to act as a judge in the supreme court. The brazilian government is absolutely filled with these people. Our economics minister wrote a dissertation on the soviet union's economics shortly before it collapsed. An economics minister who doesn't believe in private property. I wish I was making this stuff up.

Most brazilians apparently think that communism died with the soviet union and that any talk of socialism in Brazil is just baseless conspiracy theory. Despite the fact we have lots of political parties which feature the words "socialist" and "communist" in their literal names.

I fear for the future of this country. Compared to this, military rule would not be so bad. At least there's a chance for Brazil to prosper that way.

I mean, you complain about "communists" and "socialists" (as if Lula's government was anything like that. I mean, his vice president is Geraldo Alckmin. Not really an example of socialist).

But that is all beyond the point. You don't mind the coup attempt in January 8th because you are sympathetic to the idea of a military dictatorship in Brazil.

The only possible reading is that you are an authoritarian, as long as the ones you are aligned with politically are in power. You don't value democracy. This conversation is moot.

The funny thing is that you think that a military dictatorship would not be so bad and thst Brazil might prosper, ignoring how hilariously incompetent the military in Brazil is.

There was no coup attempt. And you're right that even if there had been one I would not have minded.

The reason for that is in my world view I am already living in a dictatorship of the judiciary. So it's not that I don't value democracy, it's that Brazil is not really a democracy to begin with.

If I have to choose between a dictatorship of the military and a dictatorship of a communist judiciary, I'd rather live under the military one. An actual democracy would be nice but it doesn't seem to be one of the available choices.

I'm not sure that I'm politically aligned with the military either. It's not like its a right wing haven. Lots of communists in there too and it got even worse after Lula reached power.

I chose my words very carefully specifically because I wanted to avoid even the implication that I think the military is competent. I refer to the brazilian military as the "armed pensionists", they do literally nothing other than suck up our taxpayer money. I wish it was different. I still think they are preferrable to communists in power but that's a very low bar to begin with.

Even so, it would be unwise to underestimate what a military state is capable of. The brazilian dictatorship was responsible for major industrialization and the imports replacement policy. This contributed to the creation of the Lua programming language, for example. I sure as hell want Brazil go even further than that, and these communists aren't getting the job done.

> If I have to choose between a dictatorship of the military and a dictatorship of a communist judiciary, I'd rather live under the military one.

Have you tried asking the CIA?

The CIA and NSA are already involved. The CIA in particular essentially gave the brazilian right the evidence that got our current president arrested for corruption years ago. Biden's CIA guy literally told our former president to stop questioning the elections in a public statement, even some american journalists noticed. The left constantly accused Bolsonaro of being a CIA puppet and I don't even doubt those claims. I just wonder what happened behind the curtains that soured the CIA's opinion of him.

> communist

You keep repeating that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Let's not have this argument here. Suffice it to say that I have news, videos of the people in question calling themselves communists and socialists. I'll just take their word for it and call it a day.

To be precise, lets say that brazil was a constitutional democracy respecting the balance of powers and protecting minorities.

Now, the country, thru the usurpation of previously separated powers, has devolved into something else. What that is is hard to say but it looks like autocratic socialism, fascism or communism. Its hard to say at this point since the executive and executive are mostly looking the other way.

I call it a dictatorship of the judiciary. Simply because our representatives don't matter. They pass laws, judiciary ignores them. They reject laws, judiciary acts as if they had passed. And in the end, it's the judiciary who makes police show up at your house to oppress you.

I agree that it's hard to say what specific class of clown world Brazil has degenerated into but whatever it is it sure as fuck isn't a democracy. Hearing the word "democracy" come out of the mouths of these judge-kings makes me laugh psychotically like the joker.

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