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If I understand Magadan culture* properly: "you can pick your friends, but you can't pick your brothers".

* in both the US and the USSR, prison culture was a prime source of popular culture. Here, despite a couple of decades —and knowing more than one (moonlighting) prison guard— I can't recall having learned any prison-derived slang.

> No idea about the less visible class

Like they say about dating the novice nuns: it's allowed but you mustn't get into the habit?

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When Maruska sings « Стежка гуляет, по-дорогому »

a) is it the 1989 cross-curtain equivalent to "Pretty girls walk like this"?

b) how long has гуляет had multiple meanings? (I'm pretty sure I recall a folk song where it seemed where a "walk" on the river bank could well have been ambiguous; probably not «ой, Маруся Гулял по холоду со мной.» though...)

Compare,

  Huliaipole

(Capital of Makhnovshchina of the black appleteers)

Maybe as long as harlot?

from en.wikipedia: The name "Huliaipole" (lit. 'walk-about field') reflected the nature of the area where it was founded, which had frequently played host to fairs for a long time before the settlement's foundation.

Nu, even english folk songs detail the sorts of activities people get up to at fairs...

Yeah, harlot arguably fits very well; its original sense having been "vagabond".

I first encountered black, white, and red in a schoolyard joke:

Q. What's black, white, and red all over — and can't fit through doorways?

A. A nun with a spear through her head

and I guess the civil war would be the next black[0], white[1], and red

but currently I prefer the chorus:

  Девушки бывают разные
  Чёрные, белые, красные.

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSoOFn3wQV4

[0] between Lyube and Zelenskyy, it seems both sides in UA would now like to claim Makhno as one of their own. (pity about the burning of the Jolly Roger flag in Huliaipole, even if Makhno said that one was a fake flag)

[1] the b/w portion, at least, seems to cover Wrangel's retreat from Sevastopol: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_gm5P7R_fQ

Regarding uh the dearth of prison slang in your part of teutonia: i’d blame autarky (no underclass?) & repression (see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiberer#Trivia)

Jenisch & Rotwelsch, any trace?

we had this convo earlier? Gold the precious colour of liberalism? (& of commerce and markets?) should work very well for the kray (UA/RU)

(Surely it would come after red in any hierarchy)

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no trace of Jenisch in my sociolect, and almost no Rotwelsch, with the exceptions of: Bock haben, der Bulle (both in my active vocabulary) and die Musch (only know through cabaret songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD2i8Ix9Md8 )

EDIT: come to think of it, I often see Roma in their encampments, but I'm pretty sure they pass through with even less interaction than the tourists (and both they and we prefer it that way).

Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAYt6dpCgOI&t=90s

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