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Comment by lwhi | Hacker News Reader

Literally nothing I care about.

As a web developer I'd be happy if Safari usage fell off a cliff.

I disagree. I like all the privacy protections that Safari gives me as a user. And the safari team seems thoughtful (like the other browser teams) in how they consider features to implement. In fact, I'd like MORE competition in the space, and not having one privacy-addicted company dominating the browser market.

Even as a web developer, I haven't encountered enough issues with Safari to warrant that view and what it would mean (fewer privacy protections for web users). In fact, I stopped using Chrome years ago because it used to destroy my battery life. And Safari always felt more snappy and more "native."

> I like all the privacy protections that Safari gives me as a user.

... compared to Chrome, right? Not to Firefox with uBlock Origin and Facebook and Google containers ...

Yeah compared to Chrome.

I do like and respect Firefox but it’s hard to take them too seriously as a separate competitor if all their revenue comes from Google.

But what choice do they have?

Well, something about head and ass. I looked into doing a one time donation to them earlier this year but they pushed so hard for a recurring one that they put me off and didn't even get the one time.

Besides, from other discussions mostly on HN I get the impression that you can donate to them but you don't know if the money will go to the browser or to their latest crypto or "AI" initiative.

It's always the worst type of developers who care more about their experience than what is best for users.

Having Google, an advertising company, in sole control of how the web works is bad for everyone.

Yet, having Google as the default Spotlight Search provider is an intelligent and advisable business partnership that fully benefits Apple users. Thankfully the best type of developers are advocating for those decisions, the ones who care more about their perfect tech diorama than what the users might actually select in a free-market environment.

And no, don't start whining to me about monopoly abuse if Apple willfully contributes to the entrapment. This isn't an ideological plight, it's a Microsoft-level power grab.

No.

I have no issue with Firefox, Brave, Opera, Edge ..

I'm talking about Safari.

As a happy user of Safari, I'd be happy if a lot of web developers just stopped trying to turn my web browser into a buggy, bloated JS House of Cards "operating system" for their crappy SPAs.

As a web developer, specifically one who started my professional career when Internet Explorer 6 had something like 85% marketshare, I'm horrified at the idea of a single browser engine dominating the space again. It will lead to stagnation just as it did back then.

Keep WebKit alive. Open source Presto. Support Ladybird. Hell, I believe that Microsoft should never have abandoned Trident…

Chromium is at 75.1% (Chrome + Edge + Opera + Samsung), per StatCounter

Does it count all of the chromium based apps that query some webpage behind the scenes? Because other than a few brave exceptions, my impression is that most apps are nowadays glorified (and bloated) websites.

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