Good Q. Art.5 could conceivably suffice for both Gödel and Veblen?

(the century-long saga of the ERA in the Old Country makes me suspect it may be on the wrong side of DDJ 76; on the other hand, Cherryh's patterning of democracy in Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance–Union_universe#Societ... after the some-are-more-equal-than-others Roman model instead of "one person one vote" leads one to suspect constitutional sclerosis may well have been intentional)