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Legally they aren't, morally you could argue they are.

And who wrote that definition again? Right, the murderers.

Legally speaking Stalin's purges were also not murder, by definition.

It's obvious the previous poster was making a point of morality, not legality. You can of course disagree with that morality. That's fine. But going "but akshually the law says..." is being highly obtuse.

Chiming in like this makes me wounder what your view on abortion is. I'm not asking, though.

I'm not really sure if I follow how that relates?

I'm just saying that "X is legal" is not really a good counter to "X is not moral", which of course also applies in the reverse. Legality and morality are just not the same thing.

Oh lol. I was being serious. Been thinking about the nuances of it recently and I felt it kinda resides within that framework. Wasn't meant to be snide but also this threads not the place for it.