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Shameless plug: I just created a short AI film (1) and tried to tell an actual story and trigger emotions. I spent countless hours crafting the script, choosing the shots, refining my prompts, generating images, animating images, generating music, sounds, and so on... For me AI tools are just that - tools. True, you have to yield them some "control", but at the end of the day you are still the one guiding and directing them.

Similarily, a film director "just" gives guidance to a bunch of people: actors, camera operator, etc. Do you consider the movie is his creation, even if he didn't directly perform any action? A photographer just has to push a button and the camera captures an image. Is the output still considered his creation? Yes and Yes, so I think we should consider the same with AI assisted art forms. Maybe the real topic is the level of depth and sophistication in the art (just like the difference between your iPhone pictures and a professional photographer's) but in my opinion this is orthogonal to it being human or AI generated.

To be honest so far we have mostly seen AI video demos which were indeed quite uninteresting and shallow, but now filmmakers are busy learning how to harness these tools, so my prediction is that in no time you will see high quality and captivating AI generated films.

(1) https://artefact-ai-film-festival.com/golden-hours-66f869b36... Please consider liking it!

I have a newborn daughter, so watching this made me cry a little bit, alone at my desk.

If yall needed evidence of these tools giving everyday people the ability to make emotion-tugging creations, I'll send you a picture of the tears!

Now I'm thinking I can finally make the (IMO) dope music videos that come to me sometimes when I'm listening to a song I really love.

I got to the scene where there is a doctor visit (halfway though) and though "NOPE, I'm not going through this[1] again" and closed it.

[1] The first minutes of UP

this is an excellent example that despite all the technical limitations (the ugly image artifacts, the lack of exact image consistency, etc), it's _already possible_ to create something that connects. The "format purists" currently dismiss AI tooling the same way they used to dismiss computer graphics animation back when Toy Story 1 came out.

Excellent work!

I'm in agreement with scudsworth here, but i have a little more nuance, i think. I know how long this took, and how many compromises were made. The only reason this works, at all, is because humans have a massive list of cultural memes and tropes that shorthand "experience" for us. it has the "AI can only generate 2-5 seconds of video before it goes completely off the rails" vibe; which allows it to fit in with the ADHD nature of most video production of the last 30 years - something a lot of people do not like. For an example where this was jarring in the video, when they're drawing or painting, you cut the scene slightly too late, you can see the AI was about to do some wild nonsense.

What happened to the mom? Why does the kid get older and younger looking? why does the city flicker in the beginning? which kid is his in the ballet performance? why do they randomly have "lazy eye"? i could keep going but i think we all get my point.

I can intuit the tropes used by the AI to convey meaning, and i'd be willing to list them all with relevant links for the paltry sum of $50. Be warned, it will be a very large list. Tropes and "memes" are doing 100% of the heavy lifting of this "art".

Sorry, human. As someone who stopped creating art on a daily basis due to market dilution (read: it's too hard to build a fanbase that i care about), i am very critical of most "art" produced anyhow.

this is dogshit.

Very well done! I’m not ashamed to admit that I cried.

I will take a look. Good to hear.

a shameless plug deserves an honest review: this is dog shit

I, uh, gave some more nuance because i had some free time as a sibling comment to this. I hope we don't get downvoted because someone has to call a spade a spade.

good comment, haha. agree with those points and would add, since im thinking about it again now, that the entire work feels like a fairly (deeply) shallow riff on the opening sequence in pixar's "up". but of course with no stakes or emotional impact whatsoever.

That's not a review. It's an (probably honest) opinion stated like a fact.

I liked it.

sure it is. that's my critical evaluation of this work. if you liked it, i highly recommend the hallmark channel, lifetime, family channel originals, the netflix straight-to-vod swimlane, and a frontal lobotomy.

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