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I dont fully understand this but it seems fucked. It sounds like a real job with all the real job issues and none of the pay. Actually antipay as it is an expensive hobby ... might as well snowboard.

Edit: some of that team seem sponsored so maybe I am wrong?

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> It sounds like a real job with all the real job issues and none of the pay

I dunno, 5 hours per week without pay sounds like volunteering to me, not like a "real job".

Real job in terms of stress rather than time. 5h hacking on your.own thing != 5h contriburing to a big repo and doing something called "incident response"

But technically it is volunteering.

Yeah, I understand what you mean. I guess I'd define "real job" as "Trade your time for my/our money", and if you're not getting paid (now or in the future), you're in one way or another "volunteering", no matter how stressful it is, what area the work involves, or the size of the thing you're contributing to.

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