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Veblen revised in the light of counter-snobbery (1951)

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I didn't get past the register wall, but Steiner and Weiss don't seem to have availed themselves sufficiently of the leisure (σχολή) which Veblen wrote about to have run across Cicero's recommendation wrt "counter-signalling": (...and now for some conspicuous citation)

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%...

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Cic.%20Off.%201...

There's an argument Cicero was just carrying forward into latin Aristotle's admonitions to behave as much with Justice and Temperance, as those favourites of the homo novus, Prudence and Fortitude.

To be fair to Veblen, he seemed — nit begrudgingly - to have married into the classes, so he must have written about countersig somewhere

[& you might even want to check that Cicero didnt precede Galois by more than a full millennia?]

(guessing the Rolfes were such)

[also, a Lesser Edwardian age of lit 1944-1948?]

the Rolfes?

It's pretty clear to me (by triangulating his other written output) that 1984 was based on the notion that if cheap rifles produced Liberté, égalité, fraternité, then nuclear triads would produce oligarchies.

If the drones are going to be doing all the fighting now, I sure hope they eventually get the vote? [I'm still curious what the arabic in "Malak" (2010) says]

I eventually figured (even if not syntactically obvious, eg 02014) that 2014 was 5774/1435; thought my excursion into Social Choice Theory had ACK'ed? — or had I picked the wrong rabbit warren?

Malak (according to the most eric schmidtian translator:

1: whats the reality of this? 2: And for your onions

The various factions should coalesce into voting blocs, similar to the EC:

Uk fr us > 0

Cn pk> 1

Ru in > 2

Il > 3

For extra fun mix n match, eg pk+in, us+cn ru+uk, il+fr etc

Drones: no way current solar tech will allow attack drones that feed like birds on seed of sun. Thus limited is the duality of that tech..

stopgap is beaming tech agreed; wide collector not required (precision targeting of transmitting lasers/masers already quite mature?)

Sustainable pathways towards birdlike but nonicarean tech require parallel construction of contingencies like faraday motors/supercaps etc

I'm 404ing on your vision of future days; any hints?

The Apotheosis of Californication is The Days of Perky Pat (1963 but set on Mars)

Okkk will get back to you on the references, +the below aka SCT, +solardrones

Rolfe was Veblens first wife, (didnt look up the genealogy, alas) — she provisioned him a retirement home on Sand Hill Road

There are a few academic papers on their relationship, so this century old gossip may still be relevant for science & sciencing!

2006 SHR might've given TBV a good look at the leisure class; Stanford Golf Course opened in 1930. (TIL Oswald was a nephew)

https://allpoetry.com/The-Golf--Links

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/09/us/an-inconspicuous-consu...

Rolfe wrote a children's book, which would be in keeping with our contemporary non-governing elite profile?

https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Goosenbury-Pilgrims-C...

EDIT: and Veblen had a shack in La Honda; I don't know what that area was like then or what it's like now, but to me LH says drum circles, dazers, and funny smelling cigarettes that just don't stay lit.

Lovely snacks that almost brought tears

To my biased eyes, Ellen ‘s weirdly

rational behavior smacks

of old moneyedom, Amidst the rustic shacks

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