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What a great little computer at a very reasonable price. A few interesting things with this announcement:

1. Interesting that they did not have this as part of an event. I think this either means they do not have much else to share around the Mac right now or the opposite, there just won't be room to talk about the iMac or Mac Mini. I am leaning towards the former as a I suspect the other computers in their lineup will just receive a spec bump soon.

2. On the product page (https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/) Apple highlights a number of third party accessories. Notably the PS5 controller and several keyboards and mice from different manufacturers. This seems small, but it would have been almost blasphemy under the jobs era.

3. This is quite the little powerhouse. Honestly it is so good it eliminates the need for most people to even consider the Mac Studio.

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> This seems small, but it would have been almost blasphemy under the jobs era.

I feel like Jobs was a lot more pragmatic than we give him credit for. I mean we had the HP iPods, iTunes on Windows etc.

And the iMac's catch copy was "BYODKM" at the very start, fully putting the spotlight on third parties and composability.

I've followed Apple all my life and never heard of HP iPods!

It was a weird win-win for Apple if I remember correctly. They were able to sell more iPods, get iTunes installed on all HP machines, and block HP from creating a rival music player. I honestly am not sure what HP got beyond the logo on the back of some iPods and the ability to try and associate themselves with a popular and cool product.

I think HP in that era was definitely trying to be more "popular and cool." Not sure how much it really helped though.

HP of the era was falling apart and making stupid acquisitions.

Would that have been pre-apple store, an effort to use HP's distribution/sales channels to get iPod into, like CompUSA or CircuitCity?

Jobs was extremely pragmatic, which is why for all his fault Apple would always come up with a desirable technological solution. Most things said about Jobs are pop culture caricature derived from peoples talking shit about him (mostly because of success jaleousy).

Did you know him?

Are you idiotic? I can play the game too.

> And the iMac's catch copy was "BYODKM" at the very start

I think you meany Mac mini there. It was definitely built as the gateway into the Mac ecosystem. Swap your tower for a Mac mini, and keep using the rest of your old hardware.

This whole week will see a Mac annoucement according to what this Greg Joswiak said last week.

https://www.apple.com/leadership/greg-joswiak/

Apple has shown people gaming with PS5 controllers at events for I believe a few years now. Someone can fact check me on that but it's not the first time I've seen it.

It's a great controller. works flawlessly with the mac

and you can remoteplay to your ps5 (or ps4) which also works great if your internet isnt terrible

iMac was yesterday, Mini today and MacBook Pro tomorrow.

Mac Studio and Mac Pro are getting upgrades next year apparently.

Thats actually a really good price.

The mac book air with the M chip was absolutly a steal already. I'm surprised by this.

Is that some thing to allow cheaper MX / Arm architecture in DCs? Is getting Apple affordable oO?!

I have to think economies of scale are coming into play for Apple. They can cut deals for chips and other components at a scale no one else is really capable of and they have the luxury of being able to pay up front in advance if they need to.

I mean yes for sure but apple always had a high margin. I'm pretty sure they did not suddenly become 'nice'.

Would be interesint to know though if the margin stayed the same and they literaly just save a lot of money.

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