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It's kind of admirable, though. If you start asking for $7T, only asking for $1T becomes quite reasonable ;-)

That only works if the initial request isn’t so bonkers that no one can trust subsequent ones.

True. I think Sam might get a "bonkers" pass because of his track record that the rest of us might not.

He’s exactly the person I wouldn’t give a pass to, because of his track record. I wouldn’t give a penny to a cryptocurrency scammer.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...

Especially not one whose business plan is “let’s invent fairytale technology then ask it how to make money”.

https://x.com/geepytee/status/1778859803735113950

If all of that sounds good to you, I know of a bridge you may be interested in purchasing.

What track record does he have?

Shoot for the stars and you get to the moon.

and fake it before you make it ...im still waiting for GPT's version of H.E.R.... many months later nowhere to be found yet no doubt that juiced their revenue.

The startup playbook lie ur ass off and make sh!t up. Musk still does it to this day with the recent demo of his Optimus robots implying they were all AI driven.

I have to say I’m really weirded out by the decision to sort of pretend they weren’t remotely controlled

why that's what many start-uppers do to win the startup game ..fake it .. lie. Would you trust your life to Elon's self driving tech which you sign away your rights to sue lol

Some with deadly consequences like Uber's attempt at self driving and what was that other recent self driving company that ran over / mangled a pedestrian?

Yes but in this case it was clearly apparent to most and to those who spoke with the robot and believed it must have felt like morons for being filmed thinking they were real. I just felt the benefits weren’t there as it was an obvious fakery.

Tbh when they had the real person on the suit I wouldn’t have approved that it would give the impression I’m ok with pretending to an extent.

I understand having a half working prototype iPhone on stage but literally pretending the robots are real just felt dishonest and a bad idea.

But hey I’m not a Vc

I would say the less morality you have and hold onto and or care about the more successful you will be at tech start-ups.

> Yes but in this case it was clearly apparent to most and to those who spoke with the robot and believed it must have felt like morons for being filmed thinking they were real.

If you spoke with the robot and believed it was AI controlled you should feel like a moron, considering the robot explicitly stated that it was remote controlled in that demo. https://x.com/zhen9436/status/1844773471240294651/

I'm not sure why you don't seem to understand my point or what seems pretty clear to me what happened that night. Here are 2 points.

1) "that" demo? I never mentioned "a" demo. That one clip, which you found, the robot answers a specific question to one user.

There were hundreds of interactions that night, and in many that I saw atleast one person clearly didn't realise they were.

2) Regardless of whether it was their fault for being morons, my point is they FELT like morons, which TO ME is not good publicity.

I like Elon and I think the demos were incredibly, I am saying it weirded me out they were trying to pretend the robots were sentient, which I am sure they are not far away from. I just think it was short sighted. But maybe I give people too much credit.

I would 100% have not told anyone to pretend shit. It wasnt even required. It just made me feel uneasy about the products.

Only if they stop laughing long enough for them to hear your second offer

Well they did stop laughing, hence this thread.

Not really. The plans to build a foundry have been dropped. It's more a cautionary tale that at some point you will end up in an environment that's closer to reality where your bullshit is a liability. It was reported that the TSMC people called him a 'podcasting bro'. In other words, they lost all respect for anything he was saying.

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