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I have no clue what you're talking about? Did Gore call Bush a fascist? Obama?

Ultimately, I see the world this way: people want good things for others. Most people who voted for Trump aren't directly fascists. Trump himself I wouldn't even qualify as a fascist. But he espouses fascistic policies. Immigrants polluting the blood of America, stuff like that, those are fascist ways of talking about immigration. So at some point we have to talk about things, and denounce them. And no, Trump himself is not Mussolini. But the shortcut of calling him a fascist is ultimately okay.

Same thing with racisms. Most people aren't fundamentally racist, but they'll espouse racist opinions. So they're racist.

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if you believe the left hasn’t ramped up the vitriol against their supposed enemies then you’re living under a rock. have you already forgotten this same hatred almost got Trump shot twice? the rest of us haven’t.

Trump is literally a convicted rapist. Mounted an insurrection. Pedophile. Serial cheater. Mocked disabled people and veterans. Literally stole money from a children's cancer charity. You can literally, no exaggeration, pull out tens of those indisputable facts, which in a normal world, would be immediately disqualifying. You wouldn't hire someone who has said any of the millions of things he has said. Do you remember grab them by the pussy? Would you be friends, or hire, or tolerate anyone speaking like that?

Pointing them out and how fundamentally unsuited that man is for any job, let alone the presidency of any country, is not "hatred". If you have a problem with people being shot at, take this up with your local representative to get better controls on who can acquire a weapon.

> Trump is literally a convicted rapist.

Stopping here because this is a blatant lie. He was NOT convicted of rape but instead sexual abuse. They are not the same and if you need further evidence then consult a lawyer.

Remember that disinformation the left claimed the right was spreading? guess what you’re doing now?

Oh, my deepest apologies. He's not a convicted rapist, only a convicted sexual abuser. Also a close associate and friend to a known pedophile ringleader, so very highly probably a rapist and child molester too.

Does rape vs sexual abuse change much in your view? Especially when there's also him bragging about grabbing them right by the pussy.

Sorry you believe what you believe, but sexual abuse is not akin to rape. The law has said so. Do you disagree with the law or just want to punish Trump?

https://newrepublic.com/post/174448/judge-e-jean-carroll-cas...

'But Judge Lewis Kaplan called Trump’s semantic argument “entirely unpersuasive.” He clarified that the jury found that the former president did indeed “rape” Carroll based on the common definition of the word.'

trump is running at least partially on a revenge-tour platform. his rhetoric is unlike anything else I've personally heard from another candidate on any side of the aisle.

I understand that we don't agree here and that we all view things that are said through a distorted lens... so you may feel that certain speech from one person isn't violent, but said by another person is.... and I clearly would flip that around.

Its a shame that things are the way they are, but hopefully we can all understand each other at some point and things are less polarized. Its pretty miserable to have calm and reasonable conversations about anything even broaching politics. Its just contributes to the echo chambers.

do you know how many of us want the last 4 years of policy reversed? yea we want “revenge”, or rather a reversal of policies. sorry you feel attacked.

> do you know how many of us want the last 4 years of policy reversed

Which ones exactly?

Yes.

Both times were by a disgruntled right-wing/Republican and not a left-wing/Democrat. (and no, a single $20 donation to a Democrat does not make someone a Democrat).

No idea what this means. Who is paying $20 to want to be a dem? is it a club or cult?

One of the shooters was a conservative who became disenchanted with trump and gave $20 to a Democrat.

Yea and we all believe that…

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