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I'm not American and not taking sides.

Have you listened to the latest the latest Joe Rogan episode with Musk. The Harris camp seems to be guilty of many of the things they accused Trump of.

Echo chambers happen on both sides and are a real issue.

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> Have you listened to the latest the latest Joe Rogan episode with Musk.

Because those two don't have an agenda at all...

And the mainstream (leftist) media doesn't?

I listened to both and JRE definitely pointed out some fucked up and verifiable systemic issues with the Democrats that you wouldn't have even noticed if you only listened to MSM.

> And the mainstream (leftist) media doesn't?

Let me introduce you to my friend, Rupert Murdoch. Once you two are finished talking I don't ever want to hear you conflate mainstream media with leftist influence again.

There are some left leaning media outlets, no doubt. But there is nothing, NOTHING, that compares to the propaganda machine that is Fox. Nothing.

I haven't. Any good examples that you can remember?

"Seems to be guilty" is a very different thing than a Fortunate Son who is an adulterer who was found guilty on 34 charges relating to the hush money, his two defense suits against Carroll are under appeal and who knows what sort of things happened when he hang out with his buddy Epstein. Jack Smith is still fighting to get the insurrection case going. America voted a criminal into office.

Anything real or just made up things?

Harris and Biden did not incite an insurrection. Harris and Biden did not get impeached for withholding funds from Ukraine as Trump was impeached for doing. Harris and Biden are not convicted felons. "The Harris camp seems to be guilty of many of the things they accused Trump of," is nonsense.

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