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China is a country of over 1 billion people. It has advanced and surpassed many Western countries in the span of just 40 years. Trying to put a leash on them with sanctions is futile, hostile, and will only increase their determination. We should be trying to find common ground and working with them instead of fabricating another boogeyman for no reason.

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>We should be trying to find common ground and working with them

Why should we, after what they did to the rights and freedoms of the people of Hong Kong?

Look at China's neighbors. I'm sure the solution to their conflicts with China is "finding common ground and working with them". Would you have told Ukraine the same thing about Russia before Russia invaded? Hell, do you say it now?

No, I have always been strongly on Ukraine's side. The war began because diplomacy failed. We do not want the same to happen with Taiwan - again, we should be trying to find common ground and deescalate the situation. Sanctions are a band aid and escalate, and they only work for so long.

and by deescalation, you mean give China and Russia anything they want

I didn't say that, or imply that, and it would make no sense for that to be my stance given that I said I support Ukraine. At least put some thought in before you hit reply.

The war started because Putin wanted it to start. There’s no other hidden reason.

Unironically yes since China wont move geographically from its position for million of years, US can be distracted by something else somewhere and pivoted from Asia, but China wont. It stays there.

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Indeed, why not find common ground with a totalitarian regime that conducts genocides and violently suppresses democracy and dissent

take it from an old man that was born in eastern europe in another totalitarian regime, I've seen it in practice, I've seen the horrors behind closed doors: appeasement never works and only prolongs the suffering of the people.

I hate to make a whataboutism argument, but the US is no angel either.

That's like saying someone having 2 beers a week, is the same as an alcoholic.

Okay, so? Countries around China need to deal with China's aggression all the time. That isn't resolved by pointing out that the US sucks too.

> appeasement never works

lmaoo for everything that works they wouldn't be called appeasement, just treaty. Is Paris Peace Accords an appeasement that doesn't work? It sealed the demise of the non-communist South Vietnam, but no one cared about South Vietnam today aside of fringe Vietnamese in California.

I like your optimism but this ship sailed a long time ago.

If you are outside the US and China it is hard not to empathize with the Chinese annoyance with the do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do “rules based order”, and deciding to play the exact game on the US that the US has played with everyone else.

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