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That's a pretty light sentence for 375 murder attempts and threats.

Not to mention the opportunity cost: victims of real violent/urgent situations who couldn't access timely protection, as well as the cost to society of perpetrators who marginally escaped while law enforcement were occupied tending to fake call outs.

He could face local charges in those jurisdictions? Does double jeopardy prevent each county seeking their own sentence?

Yes, they can't charge him again for the same physical act.

His federal guilty plea appears to admit to 375 swatting calls. So I don't think the state or local courts can subsequently charge him for any of those calls - they would need to find evidence of some separate calls.

IANAL, but some googling suggests you are wrong about that:

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/blog/federal-crimes/is-it-doubl...

You're right, I stand corrected.

There are at least 30 countries that would apply the death sentence for that.

It's only attempted murder because American SWAT is trigger happy, equipped literally like an army and shoots before asking questions or establishing context, that's hardly his fault.

It's his fault if he knows his actions may result in the targets death and does it anyway.

"It's hardly my fault the police doused pluc with gasoline, all I did was throw a match"

If you have smart police officers who do smart police work this is a mild annoyance at best. Not trying to defend him, but SWAT is just as guilty as he is.

AFAIK the swat teams involved in the OP incidents didn't kill anybody, so they more or less did their jobs properly. Nonetheless, the intent was there; this guy committed hundreds of attempted murders.

I agree that he is complicit, but I find it hard to view him as solely culpable for a death. If a child feeds law enforcement false data, and law enforcement then kills someone, both parties should have known better but I have much higher expectations of our law enforcement than a teenager.

The kid needs to be punished, but that doesn’t change the fact that we have a glaring hole in our law enforcement procedures so large that even children can exploit them. That’s insane. Children are always going to do dumb shit, we need to have policies and procedures to guard against that.

Equipped like an army, unfortunately not trained like one.

My response is in the context of the parent comment saying that it should be treated like attempted murder, and then the response citing the 20 years of sentence reading to me like it was implying that the crimes were being treated seriously enough. The premise you seem to disagree with was established by previous comments and isn't something I proposed myself.

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