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Try MS OneDrive before calling google docs outdated

Google spanks everyone else on robustness and responsiveness

As much as I try to "de-google" myself and try to avoid being trapped in the Google eco system, I'd definitely choose it over MS Office. I am stuck in the MS Office eco system at work. Some of their products are starting to improve in MS Office, but you can still tell it's a lot of hacks ontop of old systems. Especially when it comes to the whole teams/onedrive/sharepoint side of things.

One of my biggest gripes right now is that we heavily rely on Microsoft Teams. A lot of our work laptops still are stuck on 8gb of ram. I find Microsoft Teams can easily suck back a full gig or more or ram, especially when in a video call. From my understanding, Teams is running essentially like an Electron app (except using an Edge browser packaged).

I have no problem with web based apps, but man, some optimization is called for.

I use a decade-old NUC with plenty of RAM as a daily driver. It doesn't struggle with anything except MS Teams. It can churn through Zoom or Meet calls while compiling code. Teams is a bloated mess that makes the fans spin at max RPM.

It's crazy I can boot a kernel, with an entire graphics and network stack, X and a terminal in less than 200 MB but then the Teams webapp uses a massive amount of resources and grinds everything else to a halt.

Word 365 also becomes incredibly laggy on long documents with tons of comments, whereas Google Docs is just fine. But, apparently, this is also a thing on modern hardware. I guess these days Microsoft has little attention to detail.

It's funny because sometimes Teams uses more resources than the Edge browser. Despite Teams being Edge based for their application.

I think overall many companies have gotten lazy/sloppy when it comes to optimization. Game dev is even worse for this. I like how Microsoft products integrate with each other, but often the whole thing feels sloppy and unoptimized.

Yes until it fails

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/27/23978591/google-drive-de...

That issue got resolved in a few days [1] -- and for each and every one of these extremely rare events at Google, you'll find similar ones at MS.

I am referring to robustness at scale and every day: Google released auto-save years before MS. MS pales in comparison in the UX.

Note: I have no vested interest in Google, not ex-googler, etc.

[1] https://support.google.com/drive/thread/245861992/drive-for-...

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