Can't they simply refuse on moral/ethical grounds? Like, we had "Service Civique" in France till the 2000-something for those who refused the draft. I spent one year washing the floors of a penitentiary instead and honestly I don't regret it at all.
France doesn't border a totalitarian nuclear power though. Your civil liberties are determined by your place in the geopolitical lottery, not by what your wishes are. Once you border an aggressive and dangerous state, then your (male) body becomes the government's property. Unfortunately.
An element of citizenship is mutual aid and participation in the military and political life of the state. Of course, if you're excluded from part of this, then we do end up in the situation you describe-- maybe doing this properly even requires direct democracy.
Nope. That's a Western thing.
Conscientious objectors are allowed, but then you must work in a jail.
> In 2021 Europe was not a safe place for many conscientious objectors in several countries who faced prosecution, arrests, trials by military courts, imprisonments, fines, intimidation, attacks, death threats, and discrimination. These countries include Turkey (the only CoE Member State who has not yet recognised the right to conscientious objection)
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2022-05/EBCO-HRC50...
I think I remember talking with some Greek person at some point as well, where "conscientious objection" theoretically exists, but the alternative ends up longer than the military service + basically feels like a punishment, rather than an alternative.
> I think I remember talking with some Greek person at some point as well, where "conscientious objection" theoretically exists, but the alternative ends up longer than the military service + basically feels like a punishment, rather than an alternative.
Same in Israel and South Korea
Getting too fat would work if you find a doctor to write a paper and you will get away with it during peace time.
the Amish, for example, don't get drafted. same with priests, or folks who can demonstrate a long history of attending Quaker services, or membership in the Humanist league, etc.