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> The EU way of open market through regulations doesn’t seem to make anybody happy.

Makes me, and probably every other EU consumer, super happy.

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It doesn't make me happy. The more the EU regulates, the less innovation we have.

It's not a meme, it's reality

All those innovations can and have happen(ed) with them also being open and not anti-competitive. If Apple is not willing to bring new features because it can't build its walled garden with it, nuts to them and others will and win them. That's the whole point of competition.

Sure, and also the less slavery we have, the fewer pyramids we build. They're all tradeoffs.

> Makes me, and probably every other EU consumer, super happy.

We wouldn't know, unless you said that. On a USA server, of course.

And yet the GP assumed otherwise.

Make me, an EU consumer, incredibly mad. I do not want interoperability or openness. I chose a closed ecosystem for a reason. Now it’s being pried open and I hate it.

Why is that maddening to you? It's not like you're forced to use 3rd party app store or 3rd party browser. What exactly do you lose from people being able to use what Apple has been using to gatekeep?

First the popup for the browser is obnoxious and insufferable. And on all devices now, not by account like they did at first, like it should have been (like so else on HN told me “but it’s only once you’ll forget about it!” now I’ve had it at least 5 times already), because of EU decisions.

Also I don’t have to use a third-party App Store now. What do you think will happen when my BANK will decide they don’t want to go through the App Store? Or when they decide to stop supporting Apple Pay because FU?

I WANT the ecosystem to be unbreakable because it is more convenient.

It is the OTHER WAY AROUND we should think. Nobody ever forced anybody to buy an iPhone. Why should Apple be forced to do anything “for the good of the consumer?” It is not and has never been for the consumer anyway, it’s for the companies that are “missing out.”

And it actually might even be what makes me the most mad: the hypocrisy. It is not for the consumer, it is for other companies to make more profit. At least tell it like it is, don’t try to sell it like it’ll profit me, the consumer. I know what I want and it’s not that.

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