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This appears to be in relation to J2-8243 losing all 3 hydraulic systems after the Russians fired a missile at it near Grozny and pilots appears to have used differential thrust for control since E190 lacks manual reversion. Ignore the Russian propaganda about "bird strikes" and "GPS spoofing", because their refusal to allow them to land at any of 4 airports in the area and sending them to Kazakhstan was intended to manipulate them into crashing into the Capsian to hide the evidence of their crimes. But fortunately, part of the aircraft and some of the passengers survived in spite of their attempts to murder them and then cover it up.

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>This appears to be in relation to J2-8243 losing all 3 hydraulic systems

Video of phugoid like (it isn't clear whether it was phugoid and/or a result of pilots actions using damaged controls) movement before the crash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4YmtAKeGSg

As a sidenote i wonder what missile was used. The shrapnel field - close to the tail, right side, around 45 degree to the horizontal plane - suggests that the missile was chasing (not say a front attack like BUK in MH-17 case), and explosion happened somewhere behind the right engine at almost the tail distance - which possibly wouldn't damage say a significantly shorter plane like a fighter (or a drone).

Googling a bit brings various sources saying that it was Pantsir-S. Its missiles have proximity fuse and have no seeker, ie. they are guided from the launcher.

I’m not saying you are wrong but it sure wouldn’t hurt to have some references for the claims you are making about the incident.

Regarding the Phugoid pattern and the GPS spoofing:

> Flight-tracking data from FlightRadar24.com showed the aircraft making what appeared to be a figure eight once nearing the airport in Aktau, its altitude moving up and down substantially over the last minutes of the flight before impacting the ground.

> FlightRadar24 separately said in an online post that the aircraft had faced “strong GPS jamming,”

[1] https://apnews.com/article/azerbaijan-airliner-crash-kazakhs...

The claim that a landing inside Russia was denied is as of now a rumor. But since the black boxes have been found:

> On Dec 27th 2024 Brazil's Investigators have arrived on site, the black box(es) are to be read out and decoded by CENIPA.

The voice recording will resolve this. The fact that it was shot is almost a certainty:

> On Dec 27th 2024 the airline reported that preliminary data suggest the aircraft was subjected to external physical and technical impacts.

[3] https://avherald.com/h?article=521fd4fb&opt=0

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