Until they get dropped in the toilet.
Phones have gotten more waterproof as the batteries have gotten more permanently secured (not to mention induction charging). It's not a spurious correlation.
That was back in 2014.
I didn't say it was impossible, or that people shouldn't try it, just that the flashlight comparison isn't relevant.
However, my casio G-Shock often comes with me and it’s only protected by a flat surface pushing on a gasket through 4 tiny screws.. the battery inside is a coin shape.
So I still think that’s an excuse.
That's not the case with a modern smartphone.
If anything, sealing electric toothbrushes is even more paramount than a phone. The normal use case is literally getting it wet through use.
Also, anecdotally, I’ve never had a sonicare toothbrush battery die. They still last weeks after many many years of use.
> Also, anecdotally, I’ve never had a sonicare toothbrush battery die. They still last weeks after many many years of use.
Sure, these exist too, though it doesn't reflect the majority of items which cheap out on all components, including batteries.
I feel like modern phones and the marketing around them (mostly from Apple) has pushed this nonsense that it's difficult to make water-resistant or water-proof electronics that still have a user-replaceable battery. Unfortunately this marketing seems to be working. Worked on you, at least. Gaskets, o-rings, and pressure seals are old, time-tested technology.
Admittedly it isn't as easy to make a water-resistant smartphone as it is to make water-resistant electric toothbrush. But it's far from impossible.
It might well be possible to do this in a phone, but this sort of reasoning to come to that conclusion seems faulty. Like saying "Phones should be able to blow buildings apart. After all, tanks do it, so it's clearly possible."
It’s the same for me, the whole toothbrush died two times shortly after warranty ended, with the battery having no issues. Not touching sonicare ever again. The cheap honeywell Chinese whatever brand is far more reliable for a small fraction of the price.
Tell that to the Ericsson t888 I washed (phone turned on) for a full cycle at 60C. After drying out for a few days it worked fine.
> Rated IP68 (maximum depth of 6 meters up to 30 minutes) under IEC standard 60529
But then, the fine print says:
> iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 6 meters up to 30 minutes). Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions. Resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty.
What is the difference here between being water proof and water resistant?
Is it because water proof is permanent and resistant is time based?
Doesn't that mean that nothing is water proof? A submarine then is also only water resistant, because they have depth limits.
Lastly, they're advertising something, but then stating it's not covered under warranty. Doesn't that go against the Warranty of Merchantability?