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I think we should stop pretending that Chinese EV/battery companies can compete on their own without Papa Xi's big wallet or baton to keep out foreign competition.

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What does that even mean? Direct EV subsidies are already gone. In the first place, they were meant to start up an industry, not to be sustained forever.

On a higher level, I find your thinking weird. Nobody ever said "let's not pretend $HIGH_SCHOOL_STUDENT can compete on its own without papa's wallet". Everybody thinks that it's natural to invest in a child's education until they can compete on their own in the world.

College enrollment rates have only recently reached a high level.

You’re delusional, Chinese car factories are way more automated and advanced than our own, and they’re just seeing the benefits pay off. I think we should stop assuming that Asians can’t produce quality work.

asians? - definitely make great stuff. chinese specifically? - they will have to prove that they can in fact make good quality products. I have bought hundreds of chinese products over the years and last thing I would subject myself to (and especially my wife and daughter) is chinese vehicle… they have a steep hill to climb to convince us that have bought many chinese-made goods that they can make good quality products

Again, no need to pretend that China's EV/battery domination comes from China's market competitiveness or technical advancement.

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