Why? You literally say on your very next sentence that it’s not - that diversity must be destroyed through integration and a melting pot.
Diversity and immigration always has a cost and that’s the destruction of your existing culture in part. Sometimes that tradeoff is worth it. But you can’t overdo it.
And getting pissed at the people that don’t integrate is barking up the wrong tree. They never agreed to that and they should be left alone to live their lives.
We should go after the people that allowed this to happen.
Have some sense of perspective and you'll be less likely to turn into an old bitter man, shaking his fist at clouds.
To me it's pretty obvious not all cultures are good to mix with.
Which isn’t terribly far fetched - apparently some gladiators were basically sports stars, with death.
The answer to bad ideas is not to isolate them. It's to outcompete them. The battlefield of the modern world is the hearts and minds of it's citizens. If our morality is superior and our ideas are successful, we should just keep doing what we do and let them spread, like a virus.
This reads a lot like "everything is a social construct".
A culture is a property that's shared by the population. The absence of such a shared property is not its presence.
New is good, anything else is death. Anyone pining for a 'good ol days' culture is chasing a mirage that never existed in the first place and will do damage to themselves and everyone around them by trying.
Are you making the analogy because it sounds poetic, or because it actually makes sense? Humans are not plants, and they're not grown or raised to be killed for someone else's benefit.
If you insist on the analogy anyway: livestock are homogeneous just fine. Also you seem to be forgetting that weeds and invasive species are also things that can destroy ecosystems.
> New is good, anything else is death. Anyone pining for a 'good ol days' culture is chasing a mirage
That's what a melting pot is. It creates something new. You seem to be struggling to understand what people are actually arguing for or against.
Obviously that's an extreme example, but other cultural differences will affect you as well.
[1] https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/11/03/violence-at-hindu-tem...
- Anonymous Roman Citizen, 412 AD
Also, I live in Germany half of the year, and there most of my neighbors don’t speak any English, and my neighborhood is fine. I don’t see the problem you are describing with your example.
If that’s your “extreme” example, I am curious what your day-to-day ones would be.
Perhaps it’s uncharitable but I am having a hard time seeing how this doesn’t alias to simple racism.
I think most would agree that it is easier to form connections with those who are more similar to oneself. Call it racism or tribalism if you want, but that's reality.
Kind of the whole issue, isn't it?
I think it is ok to just say “we don’t want poor immigrants. We want immigrants with something to offer.”
We actually have the opposite problem, to some degree. Acquiring more skilled talent from abroad has depressed skilled labour compensation here. And acquiring people from abroad with $$ to invest in the property market has led to ridiculously high housing price inflation.
Here's an official government source which says that ~40% of immigrants in 2023 are not in the "middle-income range or above", i.e. they are low-income. [1] The same source says that 75k out of the 450k admitted were refugees.
[1] https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/co...
In the US most immigration sentiment is around illegal immigrants and fear of crime. In Canada, up until COVID there was basically no ill sentiment towards immigrants because no illegal immigrants and not really much immigrant crime.
COVID flipped the job markets and economy, so people turned their eyes to skilled immigrants. Most Americans are frankly not that skilled as workers, have lower educational attainment than Canadians, it's a more rural, spread out population, etc. Plus the illegal immigration is still a bigger gripe, so they never turned as much on skilled immigrants during the downfall. Canada turned sharply and many who moved there and followed all the rules feel the anger of the population towards them is way higher than they expected (or feel they deserve).
A lot of people claim the immigrants don't want to integrate, but it's largely untrue. These are usually some of the most Westernized out of their peer groups from India already, to even consider immigrating to Canada / US. They also tend to be wealthier to afford the tuition to do so. That makes people happy when the economy is good, but it sucks when jobs are scarce.
Your understanding is outdated
What is "integration" mean to you?
Canada got their share of Chinese immigrants with $$$. That's how real estate in Vancouver ended up being inacessible for younger Canadians.
Most of that’s left of that is place names and weird foods in some areas.
Although that's what they teach us in Canadian schools, in my experience it's the opposite. Ghettos and enclaves aren't really a thing in Canada like they are in the US.
There are some remarkably insular subcultures within the US like Latinos, Hasidic Jews, the Chinese (in some places), Amish and variants, Indians in certain towns like Edison, Black people in certain cities, to a degree that exists nowhere in Canada (and no, Brampton doesn't compare).
Subcultures in general are just not a thing in Canada, it's very much a monoculture.
I know you are making mostly an anecdotal claim, but if you compare Seattle and Vancouver, and more aptly, their suburbs Bellevue and Richmond, I think the American side is more assimilated simply because we don’t have the percentages of Chinese that the Vancouver area has.
They came here for better life. Nothing is wrong with that. Country can use it to its advantage or fuck it up.
The real true difference is that the economy and job market flipped, and now there are layoffs, fierce job competition, and inflation. That type of environment makes people generally jealous and angry at others, and so there is a new focus on immigrants (when they probably haven't changed themselves much, I mean why would they?)
It was not the norm that 60% of all immigration was from a single country...
Additionally immigration has objectively increased at a time of large unemployment which used to not be allowed until the current government lifted the restriction on 6% unemployment.
You can have a mixture of opinions but we gotta stick to the facts first
Here's the stats for you:
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/12-581-x/2023001/sec2-en...
Asian origin (all of Asia including China and India) has been the dominant origin for immigration to Canada since 2006, and it has only changed from ~40% to ~50% since then.
India alone accounted for 27% of immigrants admitted to Canada on a temporary basis in 2022: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/co...
Now we can stick to the facts? Will you accept the facts or no?
This sounds like a propaganda position. We hear it in the US too. It's a typical Republican strategy to take an area where they can't formulate a coherent economic or policy agenda, and turn it into a social issue. Instead of stealing our jobs, the immigrants are now stealing our cats.