Kirin demos "electric salt spoon" at CES
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Japan is also the country with the second highest life expectancy in the world. Is salt really that bad? How long would they live if they followed WHO's recommendations?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-t...
If we eat oil like Mediterranean fat like Intuit's, carb like Raramurii, protein like Americans will have worst health of all.
Also the Japanese diet is interesting. It's actually not low-calorie pound-per-pound, but the portion sizes are much smaller. The Japanese just eat less than Americans.
It has also a surprisingly small amount of greens. There is usually a pickled vegetable dish on the side, but that's it.
No, salt is good because it helps you to eat unpalatable, nutritious food.
I was wondering, does exercise purge "extra" salt?
also, since this is japan, would they have a chopsticks model? Maybe this is for soup. Or an export version. Japanese ramen spoons have a different shape.
No. Your kidneys do this, assuming they work correctly.
IIRC sweating is the only way for the body to get rid of salt, so on paper, yes. But it's probably not as simple as that.
Soy sauce is in basically everything, it's full of salt.
tl;dr: Higher (yes, higher) sodium intake correlated with longer life expectancy and lower mortality but the study was observational and not a basis for dietary recommendations.
Here's a brief video that makes the claim that you probably need more salt in your diet. He has 3 more salt videos, if you're intrigued.
You probably need more salt (short): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02rgtB0Bxi0
Salt: Are you getting Enough?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amJ-ev8Ial8
WHY Low Salt Stresses the Body: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bNdhM4vt4I
Low Sodium's link to Fat Gain & Insulin Resistance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ygExIZm7Wo
He does two things that increase believability: he cites papers and studies, and he runs experiments on himself. This is good.
He does one thing that decreases believability: he only cites papers and studies that reinforces his contrarian points, and benignly ignores the rest. This is called being a YouTube influencer.
In ML terms, his content has high precision and low recall -- he optimizes for true positives but not false negatives. It's a form of confirmation bias. You can still use his data (which I assume to be correctly sourced), but you might want to be skeptical of his conclusions by seeking your own disconfirming evidence.
Show us, then. He cites his sources. The least you can do is do the same.
As aren't you (and i). And why should i listen to a random Hacker dude? Or a smoking doctor? Dou you think every GP is a nutritionist? And even then...
This is the third report I’ve seen in recent days and none of them mention if the spoon delivers on its promise. Reporters may be reluctant to share a spoon with dozens of other attendees, but might they practice some journalism by surveying folks who did try it?
EDIT: Seems that it works by stimulating the tongue with current not by changing salt distribution
However 1 cup of milk has more iodine than 1/4 teaspoon of iodized salt, 1 egg has half as much, and two slices of enriched wheat bread has three times as much.
Also, a typical kelp supplement has way more than the RDV, in a single pill.
That describes a whole lot of world population.
You can get it from a lot of other places, but they are unreliable. Plants grown in iodine rich soil will have iodine, but good luck identifying that.
I use iodized salt because I don't love the alternatives.
All foods which say “X free” take care of not saying what DOES is inside…
This sounds exactly like (for example) electric shock gag pens and other things that attempt to emit a charge - A lot of electrical devices need a complete circuit- and so the circuit needs to be complete. For what this device is doing with moving ions, it probably needs the circuit- I don't know that the few devices out there that emit power without that sort of circuit could accomplish the same.
Is the end game of humanity shitty chat bots, half assed autonomous cars and salt simulating spoons? Is this what people dream about these days? We're pathetic
So, you're not exactly going against the grain here.
You can still eat as much salt as you like, not need to feel pathetic.
How much of this huge percent are people with bad eating habits and who over used salt for decades in the first place?
We should stop half assing solutions for symptoms when all we have to do is eat properly in the first place, diet coke doesn't solve diabetes, magic salt simulating spoons don't solve decades of bad choices.
All of which is to say: there are many many negative incentives for people to "eat properly" and obesity is still very common. Telling people to just get more disciplined is obviously not working. (Also, obesity and addiction more generally has a large genetic component, so try to have some empathy)
Ok so the solution is to give them a plastic spoon that simulates salt, which solves nothing, gotcha...
> there are many many negative incentives for people to "eat properly" and obesity is still very common.
And there are infinitely more incentives for food companies to make you fat and addicted at all cost, and many incentives for the pharmaceutical industry to have fat and unhealthy people they can sell "cures" to.
- landed on the Moon
- industrialized agriculture to support a population orders of magnitude larger than otherwise possible
- eliminated smallpox, polio
- invented penicillin which has saved hundreds of millions
These are just the ones off the top of my head
Which destroyed our soils and allowed us to grow so out of proportion that in 200 years of industrial revolution we're slowly coming to the conclusion that we might have destroyed our home planet...