With that said, this is not a clear cut issue. I hope grace prevails and we do not attempt to ruin the boys lives in pursuit of vengeance. This is not something a mad internet does very well and would be a justifiable reason for the court to ban publication.
Sexually assaulting people in real life is dangerous.
Why should the victim care one iota about what happens to these guys? Because of some arbitrary "moral-code", "justice" or "rule-of-law"? If this were me, I'd have done the same or worse. Which is why I can say, unabashedly, good for her. She witnessed first hand how the justice system works. They got their slap on the wrist, no she'll get hers.
You "hope grace prevails"? Are you trolling?
Grace for the victim, or the attackers? Whom, if they were a couple years older would have their names publicly available.
Again, we all fund this, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to get the information other than "it's not allowed now".
This seems like a very strange and naïve way to look at government.
Think of government as the Rolling Stones: you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you might find you get what you need.
Government accountability is a complete joke, but we should expect and demand better.
However, two of my kids are daughters. As the victim, their rights should trounce the rights of the attackers. That doesn't necessarily mean naming them, but if they aren't going to be named (which is usually the right thing to do for juveniles), they must be appropriately punished.
Unfortunately, we are missing whether they were appropriately punished. From her perspective, I'm sure the answer is No, but objectively, we don't know the answer.
I can't imagine how much it would suck to be a judge.
OK? of course not. But it shouldn't destroy their whole lives, the way being publicly named would. As long as you're a kid you deserve another chance, even after murdering someone. That's the whole point of trying juveniles differently.
Why? Assuming we're still talking about rights as citizens under the law, here.
Judges obviously don't think having gross amounts of almost completely unaccountable power sucks, or they wouldn't be judges.
Criminals should be appropriately punished. But those decisions need to be made in light of all the facts, preferably within the legal system. Dumping the names out there on Twitter is, as an above post said, dangerous. Maybe these guys deserve it, but maybe "twitter justice" will give these guys -- or some innocent kid in a similar case -- punishment far beyond what they deserve.
Yes, it is! And this is what I want people talking about!
I don't have a particular point to make here, except to say that the discourse could be better.