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We never thought you web guys were doing well, really. With all the empathy to you as a person, these jobs were a result of the industry being an endless field of burning barrels of cash, not some good engineering. Every few pages of webdev was a single click in the '90s style RAD IDE. Every now-team was just one part-job with no particular specialization. And you didn’t even think of boiling it all down to something sensible. This whole job is a bubble.

It’s no secret that this is where AI performs the best and doesn’t embarrass itself in the second sentence. I’d even claim that webdev heavily masks the inability of LLMs to write code yet, because it does relatively well in the “webapp” section.

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hate this kind of web hatred. I also worked on embedded software, backend, infra stuff. I personally needed more high level of engineering work in the webdev. Please don't do this

I hate the game, not the player. Should I just shut up about the fact that web is underdeveloped? Maybe I failed with the proper delivery, sorry about that. But having to deal with it too and having the past experiences with decent ui libraries leaves no room for confusion. It is absolute crap of an industry with bikeshedding, wheel engineering and endless massaging of parts that must have been solidified ages ago. Ofc one needs high level engineering to do all that, everyone would need it if forced to write for half-baked platform. But it’s no good thing that you have to do it, over and over.

This is a strange criticism but the style it’s written in is oddly even stranger.

Well, you know, we're having to deal a lot with our own superiority complexes, suffering the disparaging attitudes of our peers, the need to re-invent wheels in the browser without ever having learned much in the way of UI fundamentals, and a constantly shifting baseline of browser APIs, bells, and whistles. And if that weren't enough, we also have an unending supply of amazingly clever developers releasing new frameworks that compete for mind- and market-share every season. Which is to say, yes, we do think of boiling it all down to something sensible, and some part of ourselves have, but many others of us are too busy in our unspecialized part-jobs, maintaining the health of our now-teams, to piece it all together in a way that makes enough grammatical sense for the LLMs to understand. It certainly could be a bubble, sure, but it looks more like an ocean to us.

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