oh the irony
also, I bet the Chinese are quaking in their boots at the thought of an investigation by Microsoft
also, I bet the Chinese are quaking in their boots at the thought of an investigation by Microsoft
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David Sacks, President Donald Trump’s artificial intelligence czar, said Tuesday there’s “substantial evidence” that DeepSeek leaned on the output of OpenAI’s models to help develop its own technology. In an interview with Fox News, Sacks described a technique called distillation whereby one AI model uses the outputs of another for training purposes to develop similar capabilities.
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T&C violations at the worst?
especially on a matter of national interest
a US court has no ability to enforce its judgement on Chinese actions in China
By the time the law adapts and can target DeepSeek, DeepSeek and others will be 2 generations ahead using different paradigms that render the new laws obsolete.
This is actually quite serious in my opinion, as running the 671B model is not trivial and I was hoping more vendors would pop up to provide API services.
I admire your optimism but the simple fact is, you have a person in power that can be easily bribed and you have VERY rich people that stand to lose a lot.
DeepSeek v3 is something I would actually install a VPN for, to get access to it, if it becomes an issue in Canada. It truly is on par with Sonnet and cost 15 times less.
My hope is, people will start to use DeepSeek v3 to do what DeepSeek is accused of having done and by the time things make it to court, it would be too late as there would be no way to say where any of the data came from.
I know the model is there, but running the 671B model would literally not make sense unless you can provide services at scale. The only reason that I, and others care is DeepSeek costs 15 times less than Sonnet. Stopping DeepSeek from offering their service at that price is the whole point of why OpenAI and Microsoft is now serious about all of this.
I believe the goal is to prevent any other provider from providing the models as an API service. OpenAI and Anthropic charge as much as they do because they bake in high salaries and R&D. With the weights freely available, the only cost is just hardware and support staff.
(if this was substantially large, OAI would already know from the API bills).
Microsoft’s security researchers in the fall observed individuals they believe may be linked to DeepSeek exfiltrating a large amount of data using the OpenAI application programming interface, or API.
There's no Chain-of-Thought trace available in OpenAI; and so all this FuD about DeepSeek's technical achievement, which achieves this completely via RL, is for nought.
Westerners have this annoying habbit of framing their irrational hate for other groups (typ. racial) as some sort of righteous/moral stand.
I don't care for this non-sense since I'm not part of this game.