It’s not impossible the very idea of a “US presidency” radically changes by 2028.
Do you think flooding the zone with shit will work? If they actively rig the next elections do you think that any attempt to point that out will be met by "you were saying all the time that elections cannot be rigged"?
It seems society has been caught off guard by the transformation in the media landscape and the resulting fragmentation of attention.
More details would help
It has already been floated.
But it’ll take time for the administration to lose in court. In the meantime, the lack of cash flow is causing people to be laid off and then organizations will shutter. And that’s the goal, dismantling the capability.
It’ll also probably cause a recession.
"a republic, if you can keep it" and obviously you can't.
I'm not a fan of Trump, but his critics have pretty much squandered their credibility, and his political opponents have dumb strategies and even dumber priorities (if you can even take them at their word).
See: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
I believe Trump is a fascist who is extremely dangerous and everything he did so far ticks all the boxes. And by the way: In the wolf story you refer to the wolf was real. The real moral of that story is that the villagers should have trusted the boy (to prevent his death) and help him, as he in fact saw a wolf (who ate him in the end). The story says that the boy lied, but as he died that story would have been told be the villagers who let him die. The wolf was real (he ate the boy), the villagers made up a story after the fact of how the boy had it coming as a lier to justify their position.
It is a story about people who are more afraid of the scary story and the messenger who tells it, than of the actual danger itself. About people who despite warnings let the boy get eaten, because they checked the first two times and the evil wasn't directly evident to them.
In German we say about fascism: "Wehret den Anfängen" (defend against the beginnings). Once you are in a fascist society, once the wolf is eating you, it is to late. And the wolf is real.
Trumps opponents, collectively, have been crying wolf. They've been saying we're just around the corner from a a dictatorship for years, and Trump had a whole term and a dictatorship didn't happen.
And we're talking about some new-style political correctness here, but you're jumping to "we may never have elections ever again!1!!." If there's actual danger, people need to fucking stay focused and not get distracted and habitually overreact. Overreaction does two bad things: 1) it burns up your credibility, because it's a lie; and 2) when acted upon it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy as it triggers reactions of its own.
> I believe Trump would have lost if this was a fair election.
Election denial? Not a good look.
> In the wolf story you refer to the wolf was real.
Only at the the end, not at the beginning. In the beginning, the boy was lying to get attention.
> The real moral of that story is that the villagers should have trusted the boy (to prevent his death) and help him, as he in fact saw a wolf (who ate him in the end).
No it isn't. The real moral is don't lie, otherwise people stop trusting you and bad things will happen. It's explicitly stated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf: "The moral stated at the end of the Greek version is, 'this shows how liars are rewarded: even if they tell the truth, no one believes them'".
If you get something so basic as that wrong, it calls everything else you say into question.
> The story says that the boy lied, but as he died that story would have been told be the villagers who let him die. The wolf was real (he ate the boy), the villagers made up a story after the fact of how the boy had it coming as a lier to justify their position.
> It is a story about people who are more afraid of the scary story and the messenger who tells it, than of the actual danger itself. About people who despite warnings let the boy get eaten, because they checked the first two times and the evil wasn't directly evident to them.
As far as I can tell, that's your imagined head-cannon. Here's the actual original story: http://mythfolklore.net/aesopica/oxford/151.htm
> There was a boy tending the sheep who would continually go up to the embankment and shout, 'Help, there's a wolf!' The farmers would all come running only to find out that what the boy said was not true. Then one day there really was a wolf but when the boy shouted, they didn't believe him and no one came to his aid. The whole flock was eaten by the wolf. The story shows that this is how liars are rewarded: even if they tell the truth, no one believes them.
The boy lived; the farmers believed him, and were not afraid of the story so were fooled for a time; there was no coverup.
Unfortunately, this problem has been solved by dictatorships where the power is tied to a party or small non-familial circle, such as China, potentially Russia (though we'd have to see how things end up would Putin disappear tomorrow, they may actually have reverted to familiar inheritance) and now, likely, the US. There, pesky biology forms no such risk.
[0] A microcosm of this is the Musk / Altman feud.
Hitler was also perceived as a worthless clown who could be easily manipulated by other interests when first elected. But he was cunning enough to eliminate all opposition and start a world war. Putin and Xi (who Trump admires and looks up to) are very similar.
Trump could easily start a dynastic takeover of the republican party, there is more than one Trump (Ivanka, Baron, etc). There are many reasons to be fearful at this juncture, especially if you live in the US.
But I don't think this is entirely accurate
> Hitler was also perceived as a worthless clown who could be easily manipulated by other interests when first elected. But he was cunning enough to eliminate all opposition and start a world war. Putin and Xi (who Trump admires and looks up to) are very similar.
Especially with Putin, as far as I can tell at no point was he considered a clown by anyone who mattered. He was definitely underestimated, but it's a marked difference with Trump (and Hitler).
Literally so.
Also, I know. My only point was that comparing to Biden doesn't make sense, since when Biden was running again he was not term-limited.
They're going to try to find one way or another to let him run again (if he lives long enough)
> Not if they change the constitution. https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-propo...
Backbencher proposes something dumb that'll almost certainly go nowhere? The sky must be falling, and that's proof!
Continue to pish posh while they continue dismantling the republic.
And then, maybe when the idea actually gets pursued, it won't seem so controversial because all the energy was wasted before it was actually a thing.
> Continue to pish posh while they continue dismantling the republic.
If you don't want it dismantled, you can start by not getting distracted by dumb stuff and/or taking the bait. Then, the next step is to realize the politics of maximum opposition failed, and try something else.
Keep ignoring the world in front of your eyes. Edit: Also if you think the "world of maximal opposition has failed" that's very amusing as the level of opposition was extremely low.
Get your pink hat on, it's time to waste your energy on the wrong things.
> Keep ignoring the world in front of your eyes. Edit: Also if you think the "world of maximal opposition has failed" that's very amusing as the level of opposition was extremely low.
Trump got elected, despite being portrayed constantly as both hopelessly incompetent, totally unacceptable politically, and as existential threat to democracy by his opponents and most of the media; being subject to multiple criminal investigations by them; having huge protests against him; and more than $1.4 billion spent on advertising against him. He was opposed to the legal maximum, and anything more would have gotten into armed militia territory.