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Permanent, until they go out of business. We should just standardize on archive.org and figure out a way to distribute redundant copies of its data around in such a way that it can survive even if the original Internet Archive goes down.

I hate to push blockchain stuff, but something like IPFS might actually be a good idea here.

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It’s run by the Harvard Law Library (i.e. backed by a multibillion-dollar university that is substantially older than the country it’s located in) and operated as a decentralized network across multiple public and private library systems.

Like any service, it might shut down due to lack of interest, but I doubt Harvard Law is at risk of “going out of business”.

> I doubt Harvard Law is at risk of “going out of business”.

Wait until they publicly criticise Musk.

There honestly might be a greater chance of something happening to the .cc domain (like what's happening now with .io)

Harvard has a much larger population than the Cocos islands, I don't know why this project decided to rely on a country code tld

then the dns providers of the world step in and override it and redirect. hopefully cloudflare can save us.

Any discussion in this domain should include an overview of what happened to PURL and purl.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_uniform_resource_lo...

Regardless of institutional gravitas, projects without wide uptake are mostly doomed on a 20-year horizon.

I am glad I am not the only one who remembers that. Most of the time people mean package url when they use purl.

Archive.org has had it's fair share of problems recently as well. I'm still mad Google dropped their own cache and just expected the IA to pick up the slack.

Having said that, there are a variety of different archives that Wikipedia uses for backups - Perma.cc is included on that list. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_web_archiv...

There's also projects like Archive Box that allows for self hosted backups of websites https://archivebox.io/

Someone's still got to dedicate a chunk of their disk to retaining a copy, though.

These folks send copies of all their archives to IA, so it's no less permanent than IA. And being focused on a specific niche (with deep-pocketed backers) means it's less likely to blow up for unrelated reasons.

IPFS is basically content-addressed HTTP, and it's really slow, and there's no way to discover all the stuff that needs to be redundantly archived (which makes sense because anyone can host anything).

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