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Unironically, peaceful secession is the best answer to the majority of the problems in the United States.

I disagree: a big reason Beijing is so keen to unite all the Chinese-speaking (Chinese-writing to be exact) lands under its rule is that Chinese history shows that when China is divided into multiple polities, war frequently breaks out between them and rivals like Japan can keep China weak by playing one polity off against another.

1. So if the problem is that war frequently breaks out between them, then in order to fix it, China is (or at least seems to be) willing to go to war with Taiwan? The cure is the disease.

2. China is not all of humanity and all of history. I cite the US and Canada as a counterexample.

The trouble is the secession would have to be cities versus rural areas in the United States. There's no good State map

i think if you allowed states to secede, you'd see the rural and urban issue balance out

it's been ongoing for the last fourty years anyway

States are heavily subsidized by the federal government - I believe California pays in way more than it gets. You're going to have all the GDP walk away and be left with a ton of sorry states. It's entirely unfeasible.

Especially for shitty landlocked states that produce nothing and have poor education infrastructure

Unfortunately, peaceful secession isn't really a thing.

The last time Democrats tried to peacefully secede it didn’t end up so well for them.

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