> Oh yes? What glee you appear to exhibit at the thought of 150 odd million people being thrown in to turmoil.

Please specify exactly where this glee is supposed to be apparent.

I was originally only saying that I think there is going to be a big economic upswing in Ukraine when russia collapses.

But since you seem interested:

As for russia, that is just sad. I'm one of those who used to study russian back when the iron curtain fell.

But in the choice between:

- russia inevitably collapsing and utterly destroying other countries along with it

- and russia inevitably collapsing and only for a limited time damaging other countries in the process

I take the last one.

Edit:

As for the nuclear weapons, we can probably make a new Budapest Memorandum and russia can give the nuclear warheads to China as payments.

It worked so well with Ukraine.

Can't see any problems with that /s