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Advertising has gotten out of control. What's bizarre to me is that the people violating us are literally the ones who want something from us. Is there no way to boycott anyone advertising in our car? AND the car itself of course.

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I didn't buy a Jeep because of stuff like this. The problem is that when I looked at the competitors, for instance the Bronco, they had their own little UI annoyances too. There wasn't anything on the market that didn't annoy or insult me in one way or another, so I ended up just buying a 25 year old Ranger. The irony is that 25 years ago, I had a Ranger like the one I own now, and it took me a series of seven modern vehicles, each increasingly bad, to teach me the value of a simple, unopinionated truck that just gets me to point B.

If you can keep it on the road. I have a 25 year old car too. I spend more on maintenance than fuel (I only drove it 2000 miles last year) Parts are getting hard to find. There is rust that would be expensive to fix.

Runs like a champ, but yeah it has cost some money to keep it that way. Nevertheless, FFR!

I have one that's a little over twice that age. Parts availability, especially in the aftermarket, is still very high for domestic classics, especially those based on the stereotypical design, and I doubt that will change much in the near future.

At twice the age you are pre-computer. In the worst case a metal lathe can make any part (though some of them are very tricky to make). If a computer dies on mine I have no ability to make a new one and odds are the chips haven't been made in 10+ years so good luck finding a replacement (getting software to program will also be hard)

Though none of the parts I've had to replace are computer related. Mechanical parts are much more likely to wear out or rust.

This is why I drive a 2000 Jeep Wrangler, while my wife is in a 2019 F-150 and my oldest daughter is in a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek - I wanted simple, easy to repair, and no frills. They wanted comfortable and capable.

I admit I steal their vehicles sometimes in the dead of winter. Mine has no working heater. Unless it's under 20ºF or so, I don't even bother to put the hard top on it.

I've had my Jeep for 15 years now, and am starting to feel the itch for a new vehicle. I have my eye on a 1992 GMC pickup. It belonged to my grandfather who passed away in ~2005 and has been stored in a garage since then. I've put about $4k into it getting it roadworthy again after sitting for that long, but it's only got 15k miles on it and the interior is mint. If I bother with it, it needs the paint buffed a re-coated on one side that was partially in the sun where it was stored - at which point it will effectively be a brand new vehicle.

I'm looking forward to that big carburated V8 after a decade and a half driving a 2.5L i4 :)

> Is there no way to boycott anyone advertising in our car? AND the car itself of course.

The obvious boycott would be to sell the car and never buy a Jeep again. Until the next car you buy is also updated to include ads and quietly sell tracking data they've collected about your family, so then you sell that car and never buy from that manufacturer again either.

Then before you know it, you end up buying an American-made luxury sedan to take the kids to soccer because you've convinced yourself that buying a premium ad-free car with the optional monthly subscription for the seat warmers is worth the investment and all the "affordable" options are either ad-supported American-built cars or artificially overpriced due to trade wars.

They'll backtrack if they lose enough money.

The important part is getting others to do so as well. You alone don't matter.

The big players here are KBB, edmunds, consumer reports, and all the car magazines. If they scream manufactures will listen.

> The obvious boycott would be to sell the car

The overwhelming majority of people finance their vehicles. It's not even their car to sell.

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