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> I will of course just remove everything from iCloud at that point.

The iPhone's backup utility doesn't seem to support anything other than iCloud, so you'd probably have to individually set up some kind of automated scheduling that (no idea how) for your main apps.

Not sure if you'd be able to backup system stuff though. :(

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On a Mac, creating encrypted local backups of your iOS device is built into MacOS.

On Windows, you create an encrypted local backup of your iOS device using iTunes.

It backs up everything. OS, Apps, and data.

> It backs up everything. OS, Apps, and data.

I’m not claiming you’re wrong, but I think the backup includes the list of apps and versions and excludes data that can be easily downloaded from AppStore.

The cloud backup does (its description says as much!), but the local one genuinely seems to be an image that includes the binaries.

I don't backup my phone anyway. There's nothing I can't replace in about 30 minutes work.

Do you save photos and messages somewhere?

It's not automated but you can certainly still use iTunes to create a local encrypted backup of the entire phone, apps, and data. Works over USB and Wirelessly on the same network. People who decide not to use iCloud can certainly still keep their data safe.

On a Mac, at least, by default it backs up to a location that then gets included into Mac's own Time Machine backup, if that is set up.

Doesn't Syncthing work on Apple machines?

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