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Do you ever have CSV data that has newlines within a string?

I don't. If I ever have a dataset that requires newlines in a string, I use another method to store it.

I don't know why so many people think every solution needs to to be a perfect fit for every problem in order to be viable. CSV is good at certain things, so use it for those things! And for anything it's not good at, use something else!

> use something else

You don't always get to pick the format in which data is provided to you.

True, but in that case I'm not the one choosing how to store it, until I ingest the data, and then I will store it in whatever format makes sense to me.

I don't think we do? It's more that a bunch of companies already have their data in CSV format and aren't willing to invest any effort in moving to a new format. Doesn't matter how much one extolls all the benefits, they know right? They're paying someone else to deal with it.

No - that’s what I’m trying to say. If I have newlines I use something else.

Wouldn't work if csv is used as a exchange format with external companies.

Of course. I’m not saying I roll my own parser for every project that uses a CSV file, I’m just describing my criteria for using CSV vs some other format when I have the option.

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