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by this definition just about every crime will be a hate crime. i hate speed limits and just drove 70mph on posted 45mph - this too a hate crime? :) or I just hate walton’s family and try and steal from walmart every chance I get - this too a hate crime? what wouldn’t be a hate crime by this definition?!

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Which is why there shouldn't be hate crimes in the first place. Hate crimes only serve to give a specific group protected status, when most crimes involve hate..as you just described here.

possibly. the “spirit” of such legislation is solid - if a group is specifically targeted because something but if we gonna stretch this out to “I hate Elon” (this is 100+ million people in the USA, probably in the billion(s) worldwide) then killing the legislation makes more sense

> Hate crimes only serve to give a specific group protected status

I mean that’s literally the point.

Although additionally it's for groups whose members don't choose to be a part of. You can't decide not to be in a protected group the same way you can decide not to join a party or purchase a brand of something.

It's all one big game of make-believe in order to justify one group's (the ruler's) use of force and to invalidate the other's (the ruled's).

> Hate crimes only serve to give a specific group protected status

That's not true. There is no specific group of people that is protected. A racially motivated crime only requires that race be part of the motive, not that the victim be a member of a particular race.

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