Why didn't the PhDs specializing in this area figure this out themselves?
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/9796144
> These are physics/EE PhDs.
> They are not experts in nonlinear optimization.
No one that is an expert in nonlinear optimization has a PhD in... nonlinear optimizations. Typically their degree is going to be in Mathematics, Computer Science, Electrical Engineering, or Physics. The last 2 are commonly found in any strongly mathematical subfield.
This is kinda like saying a physicist can't program or is terrible. Maybe they can, maybe they can't. My senior undergrad CS students are worse programmers than most graduate physicists I've seen. One of the best programmers I know has a PhD in Mechanical Engineering and works at a national lab. I asked him how it ended up like that and he said to get his PhD work done he had to do a lot of low level stuff, related to what we were doing.
I do agree with your point fwiw, I just thought if we're going to nitpick we should nitpick ;)
Lol wut. On the contrary there are absolutely zero people with a "PhD in Mathematics" and definitely very many people with PhDs whose dissertations have the words "nonlinear optimization" in them.
> there are absolutely zero people with a "PhD in Mathematics"
On the contrary, there is absolutely zero departments of nonlinear optimization. This is actually a true fact and not an alternative one.
> whose dissertations have the words "nonlinear optimization" in them.
You seem to be missing critical context, which is what I was responding to
>> These are physics/EE PhDs. They are not experts in nonlinear optimization.
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Are you a bot? The text is very clear - I said `PhD` not `degree`. You cannot get a `PhD in Mathematics` - the title of the PhD is never ever (ever) `PhD in Mathematics` (or `Physics` or `Electrical Engineering` or `Computer Science`). In fact it's literally only ever `Doctor of Philosophy` that gets listed on the award. The department is also listed on the award as `awarded by X department` but it matters about as much as the football team of the school. The only thing that matters is the title of the dissertation. That's how you get people in physics departments doing dissertations that are pure math and vice-versa.
If you still don't understand what I'm saying I'd be happy to take a pic of my PhD certificate and send it to you.
>On the contrary, there is absolutely zero departments of nonlinear optimization. This is actually a true fact and not an alternative one.
Lololol:
http://math.ac.vn/en/cao-hoc/211-organization/departments/de...
and if you actually read that page, you'll see it reveals that usually these departments are called "Department of Operations Research", such as
https://www.orie.cornell.edu/orie
> You seem to be missing critical context, which is what I was responding to
You seem to have selective reading/recall abilities - I have directly quoted already what I'm responding to
> No one that is an expert in nonlinear optimization has a PhD in... nonlinear optimizations
So I'll repeat - there are many many people that literally have PhDs in nonlinear optimization.
> http://math.ac.vn/en/cao-hoc/211-organization/departments/department-of-optimization-and-control-theory/337-thong-tin-chung.html
Maybe there are actually universities with departments in optimization. But if so, they are exceedingly rare. Departments are generally not very specialized. But hey, some universities do weird things.
> You cannot get a `PhD in Mathematics` - the title of the PhD is never ever (ever) `PhD in Mathematics` (or `Physics` or `Electrical Engineering` or `Computer Science`).
THE DEGREE OF DOCTOR OF PHILOSOPHY IN PHYSICS
As for me, you'll have a terrible time trying to convince me that the words I read on my diploma are not real.
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