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I have heard two of my conservative-leaning family members describe the government as corrupt. My impression is that this was used as justification for voting for Trump. I.e. I don't know that convincing people who voted for Trump that he's corrupt will change things too much.

My current approach is to talk, seeking things we can agree on. Then identify specific items that we disagree on which are worthy of discussion.

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It's such a strange thing to talk about with others.

A friend is a big Trump supporter. I don't even know what he thinks Trump is or means. He seems to have some opinions on economic policy, but they're vague.

He recently expressed to me some surprise at the arbitrary cuts and cruelty related to Trump's social policies.

I don't know how to address "You thought a rapist and felon who mocks the disabled and talks about how he could shoot someone and get away with it ... wasn't cruel?"

I guess people just don't pay attention to the more obvious social cues or just ... statements?

I think he has to be vague in the economic policy front considering the spending and monetary policies of the first term followed by the current tariff whiplash.

Nothing he's done so far is outside of campaign promises so if anyone's pleading ignorance they went well out of their way to avoid information.

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