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If the authors of this project mean to say that a button in react wouldn’t work without including the react library (which is why the button is supposed to be 73kb), it’s a weak point, because the react library would be reused by other parts of the app bundle at this point.

This is misleading to people and the promise is so shallow that it almost feels insulting.

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I’m the author. To clarify: a button installed via ShadCN/Vite’s official docs (https://ui.shadcn.com/docs/installation/vite) ends up way heavier than a full Nue SPA. It’s not a jab at React devs—just showing how web standards can flip the script on bloat. Any thoughts on framing this comparison better?

Can you give some examples of some of these standards that make Nue stand out and other frameworks don't use? It seems that if other frameworks make use of these standards we would get a similar performance boost across the ecosystem.

Seems like it should be Meta with billon dollars that should be doing that. The whole point is framework like React are made for DX and dev flow at company of that size.

It's like someone making a hello world in C using the std, then one hand crafting the console print but losing literally everything else. Of course, if my goal was to just write hello world then it would make sense but 99.9% of people in the world will use something else, invalidating the point.

Maybe don't compare apples to oranges at all. No one is using react for a single button.

Mention that you know you are missing dozens of features instead of blaming it on “web standards” would definitely help frame it better. Do you think Vite doesn’t know about web standards? It reads pretty naively.

Also I recommend just not making a web framework. There are many of them, some very similar to Nue. Your effort could be placed on improving what is out there. I suspect that is a lot harder and less fun than just making something new. But if you manage to contribute then you’ll be helping an entire community of people whereas a new web framework will likely see almost no adoption before it is abandoned.

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