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just sit down. nobody will know, except your bathroom will be cleaner, you will be cleaning less and gfs will consider you more civilized.

also, both hands free for phone.

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Yeah. I joined the sit-to-pee club after I started having to clean my own bathroom and toilet. It really is a win-win-win

With an enlarged prostate, I find it much easier to pee standing up than sitting down.

that mileage varies

Agreed. I have a wife and two daughters. Out of respect for them I sit (or camp hover) and thus they don't have to wade through my piss splatter. Even if I lived by myself I'd still do it for the sake of not wanting my pee all over my own bathroom.

And... Try having a stool, like a one-step folding stool under the feet while sitting. Drastically changes the experience for the better while sitting. There was a post on HN long time ago on it with research on it. It aligns more with how the body is designed to preform the other need for elimination, and my suspicion is it applies to the first category of elimination too.

> just sit down. nobody will know...

People don't pee standing because of some sense of masculinity or something. It's just more convenient. Only those over 50 or so by now grew up with that stigma.

It's only more convenient if someone else does the cleaning.

Without being too crude, there's still cleaning to be done even after sitting down. Body hair doesn't pick itself up.

even in spring with my winter coat, i don't shed much, but your point is well taken

unless the flag of this enlightened masculinity you are flying means "real men leave the door open", it is still true, nobody will know.

There's no flag. Saying "nobody will know" in thus context implies that one would care if they did know. Thus, my response.

Standing is drastically more time efficient. You just have to look at the snaking queues at the women’s restroom compared to the men’s in any particularly busy public space.

Who wants to bother with undoing their pants just to pee?

I have a theory that it's much worse now in smartphone world. But I don't suppose anyone studied the queue lengths pre-smartphone.

also, both hands free for phone

That really depends on the design at both sides.

Edit: Otherwise, it's a civilized way to do it and nothing to be ashamed of. Men who think it's not manly can go clean their toilet again.

> just sit down. nobody will know...

People don't stand pee because of some sense of masculinity or something. It's just more convenient.

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