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You're narrowing the pool by only hiring specific races or sexes. Not widening it.

Do you believe that hiring currently excludes those races and sexes? Because that's explicitly illegal, and has been for a long time

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> Do you believe that hiring currently excludes those races and sexes?

Good lord yes. In software engineering almost everyone is a white male.

Absolutely and unequivocally false. Unless you are casting Asian and Indian as white.

That’s fair—I’m closer to the east coast, so around me it is mostly white dudes, but that might not be true elsewhere. But it is mostly men, at any rate.

The question was if you believe the hiring process is excluding the other groups. Another way of asking that is, are similarly qualified people from the other groups applying in sufficient number? Would they have been hired if they had?

Yes, I think the hiring process has been excluding the other groups for decades.

Why?

Earlier you stated that you don't see them represented in the workforce but that doesn't necessarily imply exclusion by the party doing the hiring. Given what the labor market for dev is like I feel that attributing observations to blatant discrimination should require extensive direct evidence.

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