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Basically dead. The core hasn’t been touched publicly since 2022, and the package ecosystem is closed. People will argue that it’s still usable but the fork ROC has more traction.

https://www.roc-lang.org/

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You could say "dead", or you could say it's done, complete.

I'm a backend developer by trade. Because of Elm, I take every opportunity to do frontend. Elm made me love frontend.

Yes, there are things that are missing. Web sockets? Tough luck, it's ports! Or maybe you don't need web sockets.

I'd take Elm over the alternatives (cough React cough) anytime without hesitation.

Elm has a bunch of known bugs that the BDFL isn’t fixing, and he totally fucked js interop with the promise that more packages were on their way then he stopped approving new packages.

Evan abandoned an unfinished project and rug pulled a lot of people with the 0.19 release.

The actual fork is https://gren-lang.org/

You are correct.

roc isn't a fork of elm, it's more inspired by the language and run by a former elm core team member.

Yeah I was mistaken, the fork is gren.

Isn't ROC back-end language?

Roc introduced the concepts of "platforms"[0]. I wanted to explain here, but gave up after three tries: just go read the linked page please!

[0]: https://www.roc-lang.org/platforms

It looks more like "conceptually solved" thing, but I would wait and see a number of real-world web apps to compare it with Elm before I'd understand how good it is.

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