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You can deactivate ClosedAI model training in Settings > Data Controls > Improve the model for everyone

In Gemini you can turn off Gemini Apps Activity (warning: deletes your chat log, you need to copy paste everything into notes)

Highly recommended.

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You can't. That appears to be a dark pattern by OAI, most likely designed to deceive you into uploading your sensitive material unaware that it's being trained on.

The real process involves submitting a request on another one of OpenAI's sites and awaiting a confirmation email (either their privacy or platform site).

Feel deceived and violated? Yeah, you, me and millions of other people, welcome to the club.

The opt-out email was a path, but today the docs appear to say the new setting is equal to the old path.

"I previously opted out of model training by writing to the support team. Will you continue to honor my opt-out?

Yes. If you opted out by contacting support or using our privacy form, your account will represent that request."

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7730893-data-controls-fa...

You'll never know if your request is really honored though. Ultimately it boils down to trust.

> Ultimately it boils down to trust.

I thought it boiled down to credibility.

True. Arguably it's trust with teeth, though the bite must be hard enough.

  Apple - alleged Siri eavesdropping: $95M [0]

  LinkedIn - alleged unauthorized ai training on private messages: ?? [1]

  Google - alleged unlawful data collection in Texas: $1.4B [2]

[0] https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2025/05/11/apple-siri-95...

[1] https://www.itpro.com/security/privacy/linkedin-faces-lawsui...

[2] https://www.businessinsider.com/google-alphabet-settlement-t...

Relevant OpenAI link for privacy request "Do not train on my content" (select "Make a Privacy Request"): https://privacy.openai.com/policies

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