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That's sort of how I felt about things before, but the reality I believe is we wouldn't have uv if they 'just contributed to poetry'.

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I tend to agree.

I don't know the differences between the two well enough to know if it was the case here, but in my experience sometimes you need to innovate on a fork, or from scratch in order to create the space/freedom to do so.

Once a project is popular, it's harder to justify and be confident about major changes (aka https://m.xkcd.com/1172/)

It seems like the share a lot of the same goals but my impression is Poetry is much slower to pick up on standards. It’s normal to use uv with a project now that doesn’t have any [tool.uv] section in pyproject.toml at all but every poetry project I’ve seen is littered with [poetry] sections, even dependencies. Makes me not want to use it

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