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Are there actually still Junior Developers out there? I thought no one is hiring Junior Developers.

Its actually the opposite of how people think.

We hire junior devs, but not senior, and dont replace our senior devs. So our developer base is moving towards being junior weighted with less senior. The reason being a junior dev is cheaper, complains less, is more capable now through utilising generative AI, works harder to impress knowing they arent in a safe position, and we can let them go more easily with less process and less reasons needed to be given.

you're so wrong. This only works if what you do is so simple that any junior develper can sufficiently do it well. Senior developers with AI is gonna destroy a bunch of junior developers with AI.

>You're so wrong, this only works if..

wrong? I'll gladly continue this 'wrong' approach if it continues to be as successful as it has over the last 6 months. Aswell as it being entertaining seeing the level of cope among 'senior' developers watching someone on 1/4th of their salary design systems better than they can

Do you plan on promoting them eventually or just replacing them once they realize they’re getting a bad deal?

Theyre getting paid and have a job. If they dont like that deal they can go find another one elsewhere.

But its going to get increasingly difficult to justify promoting them to higher salaries if generative AI continues as it is, as the bottom line is that there will be another junior dev out there that will do the role on less.

I recognize I’m not going to change your mind on this, but I’ll sure be interested to hear how all those systems are working in a year or two - although from your comments elsewhere, you run a consultancy, so I guess that’s not your problem, either.

Many people without experience ask this same question.

It isnt relevant. They arent just producing code and pushing it, saying it works. It undergoes the same extensive testing for stability and security as the solution written by anyone else goes through. If it passes that, then its as likely to have issues further down the line as the solution written solely by the senior dev would have.

> 1/4th of their salary

If they + AI are a replacement for senior devs, shouldn't they be paid accordingly?

That would defeat the purpose. The whole point is to reduce costs by getting a cheap junior dev and having them operate AI to produce the same or better result for far less

So the point is to use technological advancements only to increase company profit and not pass any on to the actual workers. If a junior costs 1/4 of a senior, they could easily paid more from the 3/4s saved (since they're also more valuable now), but I guess shareholder millions come first.

Of course. I'm running a business, not a welfare program

What a way to summarize the decades of apathy that led to the current state of wealth inequality.

Apathy? More like the fact that the majority of people are too lazy, not motivated enough, not willing to take risks, and go out and build something of their own that results in wealth, and prefer to sit safe as someones employee, complaining about 'wealth inequality'

It's interesting to watch you put zero value on work/effort/labor and huge value on risk taking (which is very different for people with different "safety nets").

Hey are you hiring? If you are shoot me an email, my address is in my profile. I love operating AI and being someone else's employee.

He's a troll account.

Worth a try

Did the juniors decide it was a better system or the seniors?

It is legitimately hard to tell if this is a parody account.

Thats because youre conditioned in your culture to want the nice lies that tell you other people care by a society that wraps everything in BS.

Foreigners may consider my culture brutal and unforgiving, but at least its honest from the outset

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