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Seems like they lost power? https://x.com/georgiameloniii/status/1933091545248641248

There's a better, longer video on Reddit. At the beginning of the video, it sounds like the Ram Air Turbine (RAT) is deployed, which would suggest a dual engine failure.

Dual engine failure with a stall right at the end as it's going in.

Guessing it's either a foreign object ingested into both engines, probably a bird strike, or fuel starvation.

Here's a Reddit video: https://www.reddit.com/r/ahmedabad/comments/1l9i1ga/om_shant...

And here's a YouTube video showing a Ram Air Turbine (RAT) being deployed on a 787 for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFBCGf50Trc&t=69s

I'm assuming the Ram Air Turbine gives extra evidence of a dual engine failure (or at least the engine that generated power). Engine spools down, power is lost, air turbine needs to be deployed.

Yeah, I believe the RAT is automatically deployed when both engines fail or when there's a critical loss of pressure in the hydraulic systems.

I don't see the RAT deployed on the video on Reddit. Can you tell the timestamp to zoom in? I'm super curious.

Those things are tiny and very transparent (since it's pretty much a propeller) and video compression, plus it's a video of a screen, will eat it up against a clear sky.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtPFDrnbAAA6c68?format=jpg&name=...

It could be the blurry object under the fuselage, just to the right of the left engine.

From another video, the RAT on the 787 is on the right.

New videos came out and so far the prevailing theory is that flaps were retracted too soon. Most likely instead of gear up.

Going OT: why a parody account of Italian PM is tweeting a video about an airplane accident in India? Really weird

The account is run from India.

That raises even more questions.

It's very common, ever since twitter added monetization. It makes the site a lot more unbearable.

Not really, this is more of an internet meme [1].

[1] - https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-responds-to-it...

To be fair, you kinda gotta be on the outside of something to make good humor about it.

People always tweet trending stuff for popularity as simple as that

But this seems a "first hand" content, not a retweet.

Could be something as simple as a follower sending the video to the account knowing it will be shared

It could simply be reposted from another site or downloaded from a tweet and uploaded without attribution.

Sometimes it's hard to tell the truth about what obviously just happened so all you can bear to do is say something unreasonably optimistic.

Because Twitter is a very weird and inauthentic place.

jesus, that's terrifying. The pilot has control of the plane all the way down but nowhere to even attempt a landing. All he can do is raise the flaps, deploy the landing gear and hope for the best.

Although TBH it also seems like a failure of city planning, aren't most major airports outside of the limits of the city they're associated with because of stuff like this? I know most of them don't have anywhere safe to attempt an emergency landing immediately after leaving the runway but at least there aren't a bunch of homes and office buildings.

This is India we are talking about. The population density and surrounding encroachment is usually why even small domestic cylinder blast could take lives of 100s.

No, they’re not. Of the 20 largest airports in the US, all but one of them have homes and offices surrounding them. The one that doesn’t is Denver, that’s mostly only because Denver’s airport is relatively new and the development hasn’t reached it yet.

that's actually not true and it's very easy to disprove because SFO is in the top 20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_i....

I'm sure this is an airport most of the people on this site are familiar with but just in case you aren't, it's on reclaimed land in the San Francisco bay.

There’s a massive, incredibly dense neighborhood of houses and offices less than 1000 feet to the south, west, and north of every one of SFOs runways.

SFO is surrounded by numerous highways, office buildings, and residential areas

well yeah but im talking about the part where the planes land not the terminal.

There runway thresholds are closer to the neighborhoods than the entire terminal except a few A terminal gates.

Go look at a satellite view of SFO.

It is 400m from the threshold of 19L/1R to the nearest residential neighborhood at SFO. LGA, which is an incredibly urban airport has the exact same distance from the end of its closest runway to the nearest residential area.

They put airports where there is room to put them. Frequently that means that they are well outside cities since finding space for a few 2 mile runways in the city is difficult.

However, there are plenty of airports in major cities and built up areas (in both developed and developing countries), and I have never heard of avoiding building in areas due to the (remote) possibility of crashes.

Most major airports were established long ago (sometimes centuries ago) in land that used to be remote. Cities eventually expand into the surrounding area.

Did the Italian PM really say "I pray all passengers are safe" after posting that fireball?

its a parody account

It seems to be a parody account

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