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Comment by ramon156 | Hacker News Reader

Live a little. When you've passed away, was all the seriousness paid off?

That said, funny code should still work

There's a middle ground for sure. I've left a few witty comments and loglines in my time.

But I've also had to debug a Delphi unit which returned error codes inspired by the magical supercomputer Hex from the Discworld novels.

"Divide by cucumber error" is not a decent enough representation of a module's internal state, no matter how funny you think you are.

But a wholly non-funny "Invariant Violated" message would be no better. The problem isn't that the message is funny, but that it does not contain the information you need to understand what's going on. The whimsy is just a distraction.

Do you find that distracting things help you debug shoddy code?

if "divide by cucumber" is a unique string in the code base, then yes?

Right. And how many of those can your brain fit?

Doesn’t matter. The important thing is that I can look them up or resolve them easily. Without looking it up can you tell me the difference between HTTP 451 and 510? If not they’re no more useful than I’m a teapot. But I can identify both of those uniquely and figure out where they’re coming from.

You can remember some of those by heart. Everybody knows what 404 means nowadays.

451 is also a bit whimsical btw – and that actually helps remember what it stands for (Unavailable For Legal Reasons).

This is a great example where humor can help: I love http.cat because the whimsy makes it easier to look up and remember status codes. Not exactly the same as jokes in code, but an example of how more humor can be better than less humor for practical, human-factors reasons.

https://http.cat/451 and https://http.cat/510 for reference

451 is a bit of a niche joke (took me a bit to realize it was Ray Bradbury), but 510 is definitely going to help me remember "not extended" :P

They don't hurt, and it's fun to come across them. If the funny thing is used in one place, it can be memorable and easier to search for. If it's the equivalent of "error [error]" or whatever, I honestly don't care.

"Divide by cucumber error" sounds like a great string to grep for - so actually helpful for developers to find the place in the code that threw it.

Not having to understand someone's goofy inside joke gives me more time to spend on the things that matter the most to me. So: less funny code == living a little more.

Who cares what happens after you’ve passed away. You’re dead.

Only the things that remain of you after death really matter, everything else will have gone completely then anyway.

No, even those don’t matter. You’re dead.

There are other people in the world.

Similar to not caring at all about the rest of society when you're alive, not caring at all about the rest of society when you're dead makes for a shitty society. You are not the world, there is an external reality (with people in it!), and you have obligations to it. I'm not a religious person, but it seems to me that religion helps or used to help with such things.

To me, now alive, those things that will endure after I die matter to me now, because they will endure after I die.

Who cares what happens after you’ve passed away.

Every single person who isn't you.

You are aware there are other people besides you, right?

The original comment said about doing it for yourself.

The point stands.

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