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Lack of humanity?

My friend, if Hamas surrendered tomorrow, the death would stop. They have no allies, they have no support, the war is over. It's now just how much of their own people they are willing to grind up. Western liberals on the keyboards are not going to stop Israel. The fractured and shattered Islamic middle east is not going to stop Israel.

End the war, give up the land, and take the offer from Israel for first class tickets for every Palestinian to go live in Iran. Get your diplomacy and ideology straight, and maybe in 50 years your will have the economy and military needed to go take it back from Israel, and then they can be the ones to bend over for peace.

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> if Hamas surrendered tomorrow, the death would stop

Have we seen an end to the violence in the West Bank area of Palestine?

No we haven’t. But he won’t admit that. He wants nothing other than the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. Don’t you worry — once that is achieved they will ethnically cleanse West Bank.

They can take the west bank too if they want.

Again, Palestine has no cards left. They are powerless and have no friends with power. They completely failed at diplomacy over the last 50 years and completely failed at building an economy (other than weapons manufacturing).

They lost and lost badly. They can go regroup somewhere else and try to capture the land again in the future. But for now they should stop using their civilians as fodder to childishly delay the inevitable.

They do have a card to play: expose the savage, heart of darkness in Tel Aviv to the world. My guess is this will lead to a global revolt against Israel that will be impossible to overcome in today’s globalized world. Israel cannot be a pariah state and survive in the same way that North Korea can.

We have a bunch of liberal first world children screaming online about it*, but that's not going to do much. They were unaware of the conflict 5 years ago when they were 15. The people who move things know the story going way further back than Oct 8 2023. The adults are sick of the conflict and hold no more respect for Israel than they do for Palestine. Both sides have egregious violations, and tallying them is a futile and time wasting ordeal.

So the adults are ready for this to end. There is no choice winner, so the winner will just be the one who is stronger. The same way every other war has been decided.

*Granted, the Muslim world obviously has huge support for Palestine. But it's in word only. Palestine's "allies" pretty much said "Good luck bro" and then closed their doors. Probably because Palestine has the diplomatic skills of a toddler. Don't be fooled, Israel won this with diplomacy. Making friends with the right people and being a good friend to them will carry you far.

Crazy to see open support for ethnic cleansing on HN

Sign of the times, I suppose

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