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Pizza's interesting to me because it's one of the few foods where I think the American variant is largely superior to the original. All of the "traditional style" pizza I've had simply doesn't have near enough cheese.

Sort of reminds me of how Japan has mastered high end denim despite it being a very American product.

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" Pizza's interesting to me because it's one of the few foods where I think the American variant is largely superior to the original. All of the "traditional style" pizza I've had simply doesn't have near enough cheese. "

It is such an American comment. Cheese is a very diverse food and putting on pizza itself not a quality.

But my main point is that: Ranking food is so American. I like to draw this comparision: Germany today has the highest share of people not born in the country (20%). So it is not a surprise the local cuisine is heavily influenced by foreign cuisines. The most famous dish of that process is Döner, originated from the Turkish Döner Kebab. So what are the Germans handle this fact? At least if you read comments in r/Döner, it is seen as just two different dishes with its own qualities. You can't get the OG Döner Kebab (and all its variants) in Germany very easily, but vice versa German - styled Döner in Turkey isn't so good. And I like that attitude. Food is art. You can't just rank art. But Americans still try.

>Sort of reminds me of how Japan has mastered high end denim despite it being a very American product.

Denim is a contraction of "serge de Nîmes". It is French in origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denim

https://www.insidefashiondesign.com/post/how-denim-was-inven...

Mastered by Levi Strauss, who was Bavarian.

Interesting! I didn't know that and I'm fairly into fashion! Thanks for teaching me something new!

I guess I was more thinking of how blue jeans (and maybe denim jackets?) specifically are a classic part of Americana.

The best pizzas in the world are in the US, the best Italian style pizzas are in Japan.

Pizza in the US is so detached from its Italian origins that if you emphasized "authentic" pizza, a fair amount of people would think you're talking about New York style.

Pizza as any modern reader knows it originated in the US and was backported to Italy.

Some people think that American pizza has far too much cheese.

Original Roma or original Napoli style?

Napoli is still making the best pizzas, just because their tomatoes and mozzarella is so good. Followed by New York.

To me pizza in the US is more akin to fast/junk food

Careful travelling to Italy, you will get arrested

(joking)

American pizza is by far not authentic pizza, call it something else. Like "focaccia with enough calories to kill a bear".

I mean there are many distinct styles of American pizza. And Italy itself is home to several different distinct styles of pizza. Is Pizza al Taglio "authentic"? What about Sicilian Pizza? Is Pizza Fritta "authentic"?

> Is Pizza al Taglio "authentic"? What about Sicilian Pizza? Is Pizza Fritta "authentic"?

All these at least resemble the original

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